Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

balotellishaircut said:
God help us if fans like you are sticking up for that referee decision last night.
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Can you let me know which part of this sentence is sticking up for the decision? I'll wait.


"So you want a system where referees make no decisions whatsoever and everything is left to VAR's 5 minutes process?
God help us!"
 
blueste41 said:
Can you let me know which part of this sentence is sticking up for the decision? I'll wait.


"So you want a system where referees make no decisions whatsoever and everything is left to VAR's 5 minutes process?
God help us!"
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Well isn’t saying “do you want referees to make no decisions and you want to leave it upto Var” sticking up for referees ? Or am I missing something ?

That wasn’t a decision from the referee last night it was a guess, because he couldn’t see the incident properly. I hope you wasn’t waiting too long for this reply.
 
balotellishaircut said:
Well isn’t saying “do you want referees to make no decisions and you want to leave it upto Var” sticking up for referees ? Or am I missing something ?

That wasn’t a decision from the referee last night it was a guess, because he couldn’t see the incident properly. I hope you wasn’t waiting too long for this reply.
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It's not sticking up for referees it's sticking up for my preferred system of referees making decisions and VAR getting involved as little as possible (preferably never).
I know refs get it wrong but so does VAR and I hate the wait to see what the final decision will be, for me it's ruining the game. Given a choice I would bring in semi automated offside, keep goal line technology and scrap VAR.
That would obviously mean last nights decision would have stood oh but wait VAR looked at it and last nights decision stood!
 
Since 76 said:
I watched the highlights on motd (I know I shouldn't) and I'm sure they added a whistle sound effect after the goal. It was so clear and sounded unnatural.
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it's on all the highlights and i heard it watching the game, the ref blew ~7 secs after the incident.
 
furthermore, surely the fact VAR established it was 'uncallable' even with video evidence is IN ITSELF proof of a clear and obvious error by the ref to whistle in the first place.
 
Look at these, not a cat in hells chance the ref saw a clear handball, he guessed. What he should have done is said I can't see anything to disallow the goal due to the number of players in the way of me and the ball. Can you have a look otherwise it's a goal. But he must have said, that's handball so no goal. Either way VAR should have said the only clear handball is by both players from Spurs so you should allow the goal. Can't wait for the audio to come out and Webb to explain. You can't even see the ball on the stills so how does the ref see a handball through at least four players including Haaland.

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No sympathy for the PL or refs, if the refs were to be interviewed after
the game and give reasons or explain the rules transparently, then teams would have to accept the consequences !
They bring it on themselves.
 
Blue Mist said:
Because their was utter confusion. No one in the ground knew why it was taking 4 minutes. What offence did they think was being checked ?
If there was no Var the ref would have signalled no goal and play would have restarted.
If the referee told var why he had ruled out the goal why did it take 4 minutes to decide there was nothing to decide?
The referee was wrong to guess and it nearly cost us 2 points but Var is to blame for the 4 minute farce.
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Ah yeah I agree with that. I was talking more about the decision itself.
 
Gordyola said:
Have you watched the video it was clear that Erling didn't commit and handball offense absolutely conclusive
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Yep and I don’t think that at all, I couldn’t tell if he had or hadn’t from the Var footage.

Far more than that, I don’t understand how the referee could have thought it was more likely he did, I thought the angle he had was even more inconclusive.
 
shemnel said:
furthermore, surely the fact VAR established it was 'uncallable' even with video evidence is IN ITSELF proof of a clear and obvious error by the ref to whistle in the first place.
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It’s not to be fair. Happened in the England Scotland rugby game the other day too, there will be occasions where the onfield ref will have a better view than VAR can get.

I don’t think he did in this case at all but it can happen.
 
Ajm1985 said:
No way the ref should have blown for the Haaland goal - just let VAR sort it.
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Correct, there is just no consistency in how they're applying rules. As an example, linesmen now will not flag marginal offsides, but rather leave the play to conclude (possibly in a goal) and then let VAR decide it. This is what the ref should have done here, if in any doubt (which he absolutely must have been), don't guess the call, let the goal stand and let VAR review it. The fact he blew 7 seconds afterwards shows either he was unsure, or was instructed to rule it out (I'm hoping for the integrity of football it wasn't the latter).
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Correct, there is just no consistency in how they're applying rules. As an example, linesmen now will not flag marginal offsides, but rather leave the play to conclude (possibly in a goal) and then let VAR decide it. This is what the ref should have done here, if in any doubt (which he absolutely must have been), don't guess the call, let the goal stand and let VAR review it. The fact he blew 7 seconds afterwards shows either he was unsure, or was instructed to rule it out (I'm hoping for the integrity of football it wasn't the latter).
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I rather think it was, you know.
 
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