Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

Moss Side's Finest said:
As much as I'd like to agree with you, there was a very very short period of time where none of the camera angles could see if there was/wasn't air between the ball and Haaland's arm (logic would suggest it can't have touched his arm but there was no visual proof). The more annoying thing though is that during that same period of time, the ball definitely did touch defenders arms, which I would argue weren't in 'natural' positions, and that's the most frustrating nonsense with VAR.
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I don't get the "short period of time" each camera angle showed the complete period which was probably less than two seconds Clear and obvious to anyone that he didn't handball, clear evidence that two Spurs players did It was a good goal wrongly disallowed VAR should have told the ref to look at it
 
Gordyola said:
I don't get the "short period of time" each camera angle showed the complete period which was probably less than two seconds Clear and obvious to anyone that he didn't handball, clear evidence that two Spurs players did It was a good goal wrongly disallowed VAR should have told the ref to look at it
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I'm probably the most blue tinted glasses person out there, but the video angles are not clear or close enough to show one way or the other whether the ball may have skimmed Erling's arm. The only person that truly knows is Erling. I suspect from his body language and reaction to the decision that the ball indeed didn't touch his arm, but the video evidence cannot say 100% frame on frame that it didn't.

I agree on the last part, it should have been a penalty review and probably a penalty.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
I'm probably the most blue tinted glasses person out there, but the video angles are not clear or close enough to show one way or the other whether the ball may have skimmed Erling's arm. The only person that truly knows is Erling. I suspect from his body language and reaction to the decision that the ball indeed didn't touch his arm, but the video evidence cannot say 100% frame on frame that it didn't.

I agree on the last part, it should have been a penalty review and probably a penalty.
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Funny how other incidents i.e. the penalty shout, wasn't even a consideration of VAR's.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
I'm probably the most blue tinted glasses person out there, but the video angles are not clear or close enough to show one way or the other whether the ball may have skimmed Erling's arm. The only person that truly knows is Erling. I suspect from his body language and reaction to the decision that the ball indeed didn't touch his arm, but the video evidence cannot say 100% frame on frame that it didn't.

I agree on the last part, it should have been a penalty review and probably a penalty.
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Fair enough will just have to disagree couldn't be clearer to me
Wouldn't have been a pen as he dint whistle for one before the ball went in the net and so the goal would have stood
 
balotellishaircut said:
Well isn’t saying “do you want referees to make no decisions and you want to leave it upto Var” sticking up for referees ? Or am I missing something ?

That wasn’t a decision from the referee last night it was a guess, because he couldn’t see the incident properly. I hope you wasn’t waiting too long for this reply.
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If the ref and or VAR couldn’t conclusively see or prove exactly what happened either way shouldn’t they just let the goal stand. As corrupt as the miles offside/not interfering goal in the OT derby
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Correct, there is just no consistency in how they're applying rules. As an example, linesmen now will not flag marginal offsides, but rather leave the play to conclude (possibly in a goal) and then let VAR decide it. This is what the ref should have done here, if in any doubt (which he absolutely must have been), don't guess the call, let the goal stand and let VAR review it. The fact he blew 7 seconds afterwards shows either he was unsure, or was instructed to rule it out (I'm hoping for the integrity of football it wasn't the latter).
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That’s not quite right, they’ll still flag for marginal offsides after the goal has been scored, not dissimilar to what the referee did yesterday.
 
Does this charade remind anybody of the infamous Clattenberg penalty awarded against Sterling against Spurs for handball. Obviously pre VAR . Sterling jumped and turned, it hit him on the back of the shoulder, and it was well outside the area. Clattenberg guessed that it was handball, and was inside the area.

Unsurprisingly he was wrong on both counts, which is the risk you run, when you guess

That twat last night, can't have seen it, because it didnt happen!

So its down to him, but equally, as the rules are (farcical), if they cant prove the referee is wrong..............................

He might have thought he saw handball, but i repeat, he didn't.

Referee's incompetent (that's a new one), shouldn't guess when making decisions, and if VAR can't intervene, that too is wrong. As someone posted many pages back, it like being charged with murder, and being found guilty because they can' prove you're innocen!t
 
marshalls said:
No sympathy for the PL or refs, if the refs were to be interviewed after
the game and give reasons or explain the rules transparently, then teams would have to accept the consequences !
They bring it on themselves.
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You honestly think if refs talked through their thought process people would accept it?
How frikin naïve are you?
 
After watching ref watch on ssn, Gallagher said haaland had touched the ball with his arm. After half a dozen replays, I noticed haalands arm was underneath the defenders, and it touched his arm between the elbow and the shoulder. Not handball imo. Obviously doesn't matter now, but it was impossible for rhe ref to make a decision like he did,and as for whoever was on var, needs dry bumming.
 
Gordyola said:
I don't get the "short period of time" each camera angle showed the complete period which was probably less than two seconds Clear and obvious to anyone that he didn't handball, clear evidence that two Spurs players did It was a good goal wrongly disallowed VAR should have told the ref to look at it
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Agree. We always seem to come off worst v Spuds when arms are involved.... Champs League 2019, League Game August 19, last night to name but 3.

In my mind if that goal was disallowed should have been a penalty as it hit Spud player in an unnatural position.

I thought that ref was bad last night - kept falling for their antics and giving them so many unnecessary free kicks. He's been OK to us ish in the past, but definitely got the anti City memo last night.
 
TinFoilHat said:
www.premierleague.com

PGMOL appoints Hugh Dallas as Select Group Manager

Professional Game Match Officials Limited appointee to help coaches deliver training, performance management and technical development
www.premierleague.com www.premierleague.com

PiGMOL appoint former bent SPL ref.

Nothing to see here....
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Hugh Dallas has been accused of many things & has always played the incompetence card, which hasn’t held back his career. When I first moved to Oz my mate told me about a coach he knew who’d been on a course at a top Italian club & was asked to bring back a watch for Dallas. I’ve known this lad 20 years & he isn’t a bullshitter & believes this story, its 2nd hand so who knows but I’ve listened to podcasts from former refs say there would be gifts in their hotel rooms.
 
colinbellsboy said:
After watching ref watch on ssn, Gallagher said haaland had touched the ball with his arm. After half a dozen replays, I noticed haalands arm was underneath the defenders, and it touched his arm between the elbow and the shoulder. Not handball imo. Obviously doesn't matter now, but it was impossible for rhe ref to make a decision like he did,and as for whoever was on var, needs dry bumming.
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It was Scott on VAR who I"m pretty sure brought the rags back on the field to get their winner at Brighton a few years ago. A dangerous one who slips below the radar imo
 
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balotellishaircut said:
Well isn’t saying “do you want referees to make no decisions and you want to leave it upto Var” sticking up for referees ? Or am I missing something ?

That wasn’t a decision from the referee last night it was a guess, because he couldn’t see the incident properly. I hope you wasn’t waiting too long for this reply.
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VAR has just taken 8 minutes to decide a goal by Bournemouth should be disallowed. 8 minutes! such a wonderful introduction to our game!
 
blueste41 said:
You honestly think if refs talked through their thought process people would accept it?
How frikin naïve are you?
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I’m typing this slowly so that you understand !
The point is that to many of us the decisions are baffling if not biased ,
take the Haaland ‘hand ball’ at Spurs for example.
If they had to explain themselves after the game then they may be less
inclined to make the decision in the first place.
 
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