SuperKevinHorlock
Well-Known Member
As expected he did everything he could to shaft us! Another dreadful but sadly typical cartel ref performance.
Sorry but if that’s a penalty then the game has gone . Where is he supposed to put his arm ?
By his side and not sticking it out to stop the shot.Sorry but if that’s a penalty then the game has gone . Where is he supposed to put his arm ?
It was never, ever even close to a penalty. You can slow footage down frame by frame and you could argue it from that but if you've ever played the game, that's never a penalty.Sorry but if that’s a penalty then the game has gone . Where is he supposed to put his arm ?
Thats pretty much how I saw it, I can understand Oliver not giving it, from his point of view and in real time it may well have looked like he was tucking his arms in, but VAR should have at least sent him to have a look.Players put their hands behind their back when they're facing the ball.
He's side on, and obviously it's a quick movement, but the hand that touches the ball is a about a foot behind his back, making him a much bigger target. The final angle shown looks like he's moved it towards the ball, even if involuntarily (or maybe to try and get out of the way), but the result is that he's made himself much bigger, and it's had more of an impact than 99% of handballs usually do, as it's slowing a goal bound shot.
And we all know the answer to that.I don't have a problem with the penalty not being given. Would be interesting to see if VAR would have given it down the other end though.
The answer was before my eyes yesterday.And we all know the answer to that.
If VAR worked properly, asking the referee to have a look at the screen would make sense. Unfortunately it’s virtually unheard of for the referee to stick to his original decision so the process is just a farce.Thats pretty much how I saw it, I can understand Oliver not giving it, from his point of view and in real time it may well have looked like he was tucking his arms in, but VAR should have at least sent him to have a look.
From Laws of the GameIt was never, ever even close to a penalty. You can slow footage down frame by frame and you could argue it from that but if you've ever played the game, that's never a penalty.

What about Jack's 2 years ago v the rags ?It was never, ever even close to a penalty. You can slow footage down frame by frame and you could argue it from that but if you've ever played the game, that's never a penalty.
That's quite a confusing picture, so it's handball by his side and up to 90 degrees, but not on the shoulder?From Laws of the Game
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You don't have to have played the game ( plenty play it and still don't fully understand LoG ) to understand that it was a stone wall pen in real time as already alluded to his action slowed the ball and aided the GK to make the save
That's all very nice but his arm was behind him so wouldn't even be visible on that graphic. What the hell was he suppised to do? Have no arms? I've just watched it again and it looks less of a pen every time I watch it.From Laws of the Game
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You don't have to have played the game ( plenty play it and still don't fully understand LoG ) to understand that it was a stone wall pen in real time as already alluded to his action slowed the ball and aided the GK to make the save