Several years ago he was pulled from running the line in a City Palace game after this came out, but was allowed to his last game on the line in the 5-2 couple weeks ago. So it was probably his revenge
Fair play to Dermot on 'Ref Watch'. Usually bums his fellow refs as part of the referees union and backs whatever ridiculous decision they've come up to over the weekend.... however far-fetched the excuse is he fabricates for himself in order to do this. Definite sending off for him.
Even the dipper Warnock was fuming about it all. Bizarrely his sympathy lay more with the European places that had been lost elsewhere and not towards the opponents it directly effected. Seems it doesn't matter that City were cheated out of a trophy.... that's fine, it's just the injustice of Palace taking a European spot off somebody else to him. Past successes/or in Palace's case lack of them shouldn't come into it ffs.
The issue here is it wouldn't happen with the Rags or Dippers. If the unimaginable occurred and it did an apology would have already been issued. In the dippers case the culprits head would be on a stick and anybody connected with the officials wouldn't be involved in football again at the highest level.
Exact same situation.
There shouldn't even be a debate by anyone.
I think the ball went out pretty quickly and then it stopped for a VAR check.
Incidentally, and just to sum up the FA on this, I just went to their official Youtube channel to check the highlights of the final, and this complete red card cock up wasn't considered important enough to include in their highlights video. Funny that. Nor did it appear in their 'key moments' video. So it turns out us, every pundit and all of the media are just kidding ourselves. It was just a minor moment that had no impact on the game whatsoever.
Burying the evidence of their incompetence.
ETA: Actually, the City channel shows the full play. They clear it and I'd guess (because it's cut) that it just goes to VAR at the next stoppage.
Hell, even the Palace Youtube channel shows it. But the FA too cowardly as usual.
Maybe I should have used a better example. What i was trying to say is that every team thinks VAR is stacked against them. Fans of other clubs think we get all the decisions go our way.
The trouble is we will likely never get to hear the tapes from this decision.We don't know who was to blame till we hear the tapes. It looks like the VAR team though. But Atwell should have looked at it on screen. He is the referee and that's his call surely.
I think u are wrong ,nothing to do with the colour of the card, it was a clear and obvious er
I think u are wrong ,nothing to do with the colour of the card, it was a clear and obvious error
You have seen a red downgraded to a yellow,this was because it became a red card incident when the referee erroneously brandished a red card in the eyes of VARYes , u may be right there ? But im sure I’ve seen a player given a straight red on field , then after review and var it’s been rescinded then downgraded to a yellow ? Not saying ur wrong but surley if your right then they wouldn’t be able to downgrade to a yellow as , like u say they don’t get involved with yellow cards
Either way
We was shafted ?
How can it not be a goal scoring opportunity?
If Henderson doesn’t illegally handle the ball , Harland get the nexts touch just right of centre of the goal with no goalkeeper or covering defenders,just an open goal ?
Scandalous decision
The trouble is we will likely never get to hear the tapes from this decision.
Can you imagine the can of worms that would be opened if we hear two referees discussing ignoring the laws of the game and desperately trying to come up with a reason for this that they can sell to the public purely to keep a game at 11 v 11, to keep the game 'interesting'.
If it was a genuine error and in their discussion they came to the conclusion it wasn't an obvious goal scoring opportunity or didn't meet the 'clear and obvious' threshold then I suspect we'd have heard the audio by now to calm the reporting on the incident. This would allow the papers to draw their condescending diagrams and highlight various technicalities in the laws that justified the decision to sell this to the hard of thinking as just one of those things and it was obviously the correct decision when you know the laws as fully and correctly as the officials.
yet they werent sacked, gillet was given another game the next day which he also made 2 terrible calls in, twatwell regularly ignores the laws of the game and is rewarded with the cup final, webb may as well have been wearing a rag shirt when he was reffing and was rewarded with the top job for it.They can’t look at it & say they genuinely thought Haaland was going away from goal before a handball. They can’t look at it & say it wasn’t a goal scoring opportunity.
There was no mistake & they made a judgement call to ignore the LOTG. They should be sacked on the spot.
They can’t look at it & say they genuinely thought Haaland was going away from goal before a handball. They can’t look at it & say it wasn’t a goal scoring opportunity.
There was no mistake & they made a judgement call to ignore the LOTG. They should be sacked on the spot.
"Win for football" always makes me laugh. Like its some precious being that needs to be nurtured.This. Said something similar yesterday and it's a fucking disgrace. Everybody on social media saying it's a red card, but it's City so it's side splittingly funny. Roles reversed and there'd be national outrage 'cheating again', '115... now 116', 'dirty oil money paying off the officials again' etc, etc.
Says it all when we have an unlikely ally in Mr Potato Head. Shows how much of a dreadful decision it was when he's kicking off like that and truly disgusted at the level of incompetence. Fair play to him, despite his understandable dislike of ourselves he wants the laws of the game applied correctly. That's what's more important to him than rivalry and should be for others.
What's more amusing is those calling it a 'win for football'. Not just direct rivals like Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea et al spouting it either. It wasn't a win for football, it was an injustice. Do fuck off and worry about your own irrelevant club instead.
If the way palace played to win that game is a win for football, then football is done, i get its all about results for clubs but the reality is that football is entertainment and there is nothing entertaining about sticking 11 men behind the ball and hoping to snatch one on the break and i dont just mean with palace, i mean every team that has done that, i understand why its done but its nowt new or genius, wimbledon used to defend well and hoof it up to the big fella and were rightly castigated for being anti-football now they act like glasner and nuno are some kind of football geniuses."Win for football" always makes me laugh. Like its some precious being that needs to be nurtured.
"Win for football" always makes me laugh. Like its some precious being that needs to be nurtured.
I must say it has been pointed out that the word "obvious " is now in the laws of the game for DOGSO.Thanks for the answer and sorry to hear about your ankle. I fell off a ladder about 6 weeks ago and it's still not right, but that could be because I'm not resting it enough.
As for VAR, when I saw it on the screen I struggled to remember a possible red card incident and thought it was because Henderson might have fouled Haaland.
We are in conflict with the Premier League not the fa ,however the Premier League employs the refereesVAR finally lost the minimal credibility it had! The FA got what they wanted.............Wouldn't have suited their 'agenda' to have a club they are in conflict with win their Cup. Just like when MCFC won the PL and Masters didn't show up to present the trophy!
I wonder which is the earliest minute acceptable that the referee can send a player off without ruining the spectacle of the game - is it in the LOTG I wonder?Don't disagree. I didn't see it live in the stadium and have only seen the stills but seems pretty obvious to me, as if he doesn't touch it either Haaland is straight through on an empty net or is slightly wide of an empty net.
I'm not sure how they decided that wasn't an opportunity but I suspect they decided to interpret it that way to avoid 'spoiling the match' by having one side down to 10. The laws are great but only when you don't treat it as entertainment and want to keep the majority of the customers happy