Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

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waspish said:
Yep what should happen is next time you play them he gets the ban then we got punished for the none penalty and he could be banned against our closest rivals! The rule is fcuking shite.
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If a key player then he should be banned for two games against the side he cheated, even if that stretches into next season. That or they play the next game against us with ten men. As it stands the cheated side gain nothing from it.

Madely has always reffed us badly, definitely a stench about him.
 
Genuine question, why can't referee's match reports be published say on the FA's website? If there's nothing to hide then why not? Plus I reckon seeing a referee's reasoning would help their cause.

Also, fines for officials, losing their match fees etc needs to come into it. All this talk of officials needing more respect is bollocks, they're wrapped in cotton wool.
 
paulchapo said:
If a key player then he should be banned for two games against the side he cheated, even if that stretches into next season. That or they play the next game against us with ten men. As it stands the cheated side gain nothing from it.

Madely has always reffed us badly, definitely a stench about him.
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Whilst I agree, this was a cup match, how do you compensate City if they had got knocked out ? missing two league games hardly makes up for a semi final.

As an aside, I don't mind the dive as much as the fact Madely was in a very good position to see the incident. We have mentioned the Walker foul (alleged dive) very few have mentioned when Jesus was fouled and the force took him into the goalkepper, clear penalty and yet they got the foul.
 
Blue Mist said:
Whilst I agree, this was a cup match, how do you compensate City if they had got knocked out ? missing two league games hardly makes up for a semi final.

As an aside, I don't mind the dive as much as the fact Madely was in a very good position to see the incident. We have mentioned the Walker foul (alleged dive) very few have mentioned when Jesus was fouled and the force took him into the goalkepper, clear penalty and yet they got the foul.
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I understand. It is a good point. It is difficult to reach a good solution but the present one isn't great.
 
Blue Mist said:
Whilst I agree, this was a cup match, how do you compensate City if they had got knocked out ? missing two league games hardly makes up for a semi final.

As an aside, I don't mind the dive as much as the fact Madely was in a very good position to see the incident. We have mentioned the Walker foul (alleged dive) very few have mentioned when Jesus was fouled and the force took him into the goalkepper, clear penalty and yet they got the foul.
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Bizarrely Leicester fans are all screaming "red card" for that incident and consider their team completely blameless from any form of foul play including, but not limited to, persistent fouling, pulling, blocking, time-wasting, diving and/or cheating. They are also highly critical of Madley's refereeing performance and firmly believe he is definitely biased against them and probably wears Man City duds. I know, it's difficult to feel anything but pity for them!
 
pudge said:
Genuine question, why can't referee's match reports be published say on the FA's website? If there's nothing to hide then why not? Plus I reckon seeing a referee's reasoning would help their cause.

Also, fines for officials, losing their match fees etc needs to come into it. All this talk of officials needing more respect is bollocks, they're wrapped in cotton wool.
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The FA are shit-scared of anything where they cannot see a simple outcome. Everything to do with improving the game they treat as a red hot can of worms. Never has there been a more self-serving governing body/ies in world sport than the tossers who run the football show.
 
Blue Mist said:
Whilst I agree, this was a cup match, how do you compensate City if they had got knocked out ? missing two league games hardly makes up for a semi final.

As an aside, I don't mind the dive as much as the fact Madely was in a very good position to see the incident. We have mentioned the Walker foul (alleged dive) very few have mentioned when Jesus was fouled and the force took him into the goalkepper, clear penalty and yet they got the foul.
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Yeah but if you watch the Replay Madley gave advantage for a nano second then gave the foul for Jesus slipping into the goalie taking him out.
 
Saw Sky were re-running the match this morning so recorded it.

Used a stop watch for the second half when there were injuries to Fuchs, Hamer, Mangala and Foden.

There were also substitutions Mahrez & Vardy 57 mins, Gray 71 mins, Walker 81 mins and Nmecha 88 mins.

I got the timing to 7 mins 39 secs so I will have to apologise to Mr. Blobby regarding his time keeping, alas I can not say the same about his eyesight.

By the way the Sky recording showed the whole game up to the end of the first period of extra time and then nothing else, very weird!!!
 
paulchapo said:
If a key player then he should be banned for two games against the side he cheated, even if that stretches into next season. That or they play the next game against us with ten men. As it stands the cheated side gain nothing from it.

Madely has always reffed us badly, definitely a stench about him.
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Madely seems to have a serious problem with Walker. In the last 2 games he has reffed us he incorrectly sent Walker off, incorrectly gave a penalty against him and incorrectly booked him for diving.
 
Gray said:
Saw Sky were re-running the match this morning so recorded it.

Used a stop watch for the second half when there were injuries to Fuchs, Hamer, Mangala and Foden.

There were also substitutions Mahrez & Vardy 57 mins, Gray 71 mins, Walker 81 mins and Nmecha 88 mins.

I got the timing to 7 mins 39 secs so I will have to apologise to Mr. Blobby regarding his time keeping, alas I can not say the same about his eyesight.

By the way the Sky recording showed the whole game up to the end of the first period of extra time and then nothing else, very weird!!!
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Not a chance we'd have got 8 minutes if we were the ones losing.
 
Gray said:
Saw Sky were re-running the match this morning so recorded it.

Used a stop watch for the second half when there were injuries to Fuchs, Hamer, Mangala and Foden.

There were also substitutions Mahrez & Vardy 57 mins, Gray 71 mins, Walker 81 mins and Nmecha 88 mins.

I got the timing to 7 mins 39 secs so I will have to apologise to Mr. Blobby regarding his time keeping, alas I can not say the same about his eyesight.

By the way the Sky recording showed the whole game up to the end of the first period of extra time and then nothing else, very weird!!!
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The problem is though that the time added on rarely if ever is from as soon as a player goes down and then when play continues. I have said previously that I was expecting six minutes - eight was taking the piss.
 
Was going to start a thread on this but thought best in here. With hindsight, and tongue firmly in cheek, well, to an extent, can we consider this the most influential refereeing decision of the season?
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Oliver wasn’t even refereeing on the night, though he apparently informed Madley to caution and thus send off Walker. The decision galvanised everyone that evening but, more importantly, it appeared to bring an abrupt halt to the 3-5-2 experiment that Guardiola had seemed intent on using; and in all honesty it had looked anything but satisfactory up to that point. Would Guardiola, famously stubborn,have changed otherwise? Would we have been as successful persisting with 3-5-2? Should we therefore consider Oliver in a new light? Peace and goodwill to all...

Too soon, right? Thought so.
 
Gabriel said:
Was going to start a thread on this but thought best in here. With hindsight, and tongue firmly in cheek, well, to an extent, can we consider this the most influential refereeing decision of the season?
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Oliver wasn’t even refereeing on the night, though he apparently informed Madley to caution and thus send off Walker. The decision galvanised everyone that evening but, more importantly, it appeared to bring an abrupt halt to the 3-5-2 experiment that Guardiola had seemed intent on using; and in all honesty it had looked anything but satisfactory up to that point. Would Guardiola, famously stubborn,have changed otherwise? Would we have been as successful persisting with 3-5-2? Should we therefore consider Oliver in a new light? Peace and goodwill to all...

Too soon, right? Thought so.
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We played 3-5-2 in games after that. I think (but might be wrong) it was the Feyenoord game where we played a different system for the first time
 
Fame Monster said:
We played 3-5-2 in games after that. I think (but might be wrong) it was the Feyenoord game where we played a different system for the first time
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That’s what I initially thought, but I checked and we rang the changes after the Everton game and stopped playing three centre backs.
 
mancity1 said:
Agreed CB and you will find by and large the decisions that matter haven't gone our way this year such as those last night.

I have looked at Walker's booking a number of times and their is contact before he hits the floor although in the old days it wouldn't have got a mention either way.

As for their penalty again based on the past two 2 match suspensions handed out I wouldn't be looking at Gray being on the team sheet against Manure.

Again it does little to help us though both in this game and the game coming up and if anything only helps Manure.

Straight to VAR and the penalty decision would have been reversed.

I am not a fan of the two match ban for diving if no yellow is given and if one is the punishment is left at that.

I think a ban for the rest of the game even if its in the dying stages and no matter where it occurs on the pitch is fair enough.

If you are sent off for diving on 2 occasions a one match ban on top of penalising your team by being one man short is more appropriate.

In any case that's up for debate but there has to be a better way than the current system as it penalises the side it shouldn't and rewards the side that should be punished within a game.
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How feasible would it be to make the offending player's team play with 10 men the next time they play that team, or 10 men from the time the simulation occurred in their next meeting? Hopefully VAR will make things a little more fair.
 
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