Referees/Officials 2017/18 performances

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After one of those incidents Sterling just lay there and Mason made a 'coming together' sign with his hands. It was after that that City downed tools and passed it round the back for the rest of the game.
I think we should that everyone we feel we are being cheated. Get the goal and basically down tools. The sponsors will soon get fucked off that the most exciting and talked about team is essentials saying the whole thing is a fucking joke.
 
RIley's part of it mate. In fact, I've seen lots of evidence to suggest he's orchestrating it. It's the worst kept secret in football that he's a United fan. Everyone in the press knows it. Even David Moyes said he's aware that Riley's a red.

Well that's simply unacceptable.

Just to give a different view:
In Germany, a ref is supposed to be the neutral judge. Like at court. Nobody would link any ref to any club. It's impossible. Of course.

We have had the old days when refs were called "black sod", as a lot humiliation was involved in the stands. But times have changed.
Refs were fed up, and have started to develop a positiv image in German football. This is only possible through high quality and a very competent way of conducting a match, mainly being invisible and let a fair play flow.

They also have accepted that fans had controversial views about actions and are willing to answer questions post match to explain their decisions.
Nowadays German fans are very happy about their refs. We even don't care WHICH ref is announced for a certain match because they are nearly on the same level AND most important they are following a clear way of refereeing.

There will always be different opinions about ref decisions, but not about the ref as a person (and his favourite club being a fan, too).

I think the first thing in England to happen is a detailed statement by FA and ref officials about the interpretation of FIFA rules.
It's fundamental to the whole fuckin multi billion business.

We want to know how they think about football in England. It's not too much to be asked for I believe.
Media are involved permanently and should have the same questions as us.
They should increase pressure to finally get official answers, what is allowed on the pitch and what is not.
 
The last bit.
They're isolated, but there are a lot of them.

The only one I have any sympathy for is Puncheon on de Bruyne, as that was clearly a (dreadfully timed) attempt to halt an injury time breakaway winner. I'm sure that was in Puncheon's mind, if too slowly to enact it safely.
Well it certainly wasn't an attempt to play the ball, as that was several feet in front of De Bruyne, nor was it "dreadfully timed", as he knew exactly what he was doing - he was looking at De Bruyne, not the ball. Unfortunately for him, he came a cropper - tough shit pal! In my opinion, it should have been considered violent conduct and an immediate red.
I'm also getting fed up of players deliberately taking the opposition out when the ball is nowhere near the incident, and the morons in the studio (mainly ex-pros) saying it was a clever or good foul to give away. It's bollocks. There's nothing clever or good about it, and they do it because they know nnothing will be done other than a yellow card. I don't care if it's a City player or not, it's sickening to watch, and the sooner action is taken to stop it, the better.
 
There has got to be some honest refs that have been approached. We need a way of protecting them, if the out the corruption.
 
Well that's simply unacceptable.

Just to give a different view:
In Germany, a ref is supposed to be the neutral judge. Like at court. Nobody would link any ref to any club. It's impossible. Of course.

We have had the old days when refs were called "black sod", as a lot humiliation was involved in the stands. But times have changed.
Refs were fed up, and have started to develop a positiv image in German football. This is only possible through high quality and a very competent way of conducting a match, mainly being invisible and let a fair play flow.

They also have accepted that fans had controversial views about actions and are willing to answer questions post match to explain their decisions.
Nowadays German fans are very happy about their refs. We even don't care WHICH ref is announced for a certain match because they are nearly on the same level AND most important they are following a clear way of refereeing.

There will always be different opinions about ref decisions, but not about the ref as a person (and his favourite club being a fan, too).

I think the first thing in England to happen is a detailed statement by FA and ref officials about the interpretation of FIFA rules.
It's fundamental to the whole fuckin multi billion business.

We want to know how they think about football in England. It's not too much to be asked for I believe.
Media are involved permanently and should have the same questions as us.
They should increase pressure to finally get official answers, what is allowed on the pitch and what is not.
Christ I envy you that level of faith in your officials. Wish we had that.
 
Given the teams who have been successful in England in the last 25 years, it is amazing that no ref admits to supporting any of City, Utd, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal, Spurs or Chelsea.

They usually avoid refs reffing in their county jurisdiction, and Oliver, who's from the North-East, won't be asked to ref any of Newcastle/Sunderland/Middlesborough (maybe). Kevin Friend got dubiously pulled from a Spurs match when Leicester won the league because fans complained that he had been at Leicester matches as a guest of a mate. Mike Dean only tends to ref the Liverpool clubs when they play each other as he's from the Wirral.

The lack of accountability, explanation or any public statement from the refs organisation is counter-productive. I think the refs are also paid by the PL not the FA, which would be unthinkable in Germany because the clubs don't run the league.
 
I don't need to, it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity at the point where the advantage was applied which is what the law refers to.

I agree with that.
I think an immediate whistle and a red card would have been annoying, but of definite outcome and the optimal approach.
 
No he had to stop play there and then to issue a red card, when Maclean lunged at Kev it wasn't a clear scoring opportunity, it took a one-two with Sterling to get to that point.

Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play,
violent conduct or a second cautionable offence unless there is a clear
opportunity to score a goal.

De Bruyne has possession = clear opportunity to score a goal. That lad could take a free kick from Asda car park and it would still be a clear opportunity to score a goal.

It’s still a red card whatever way anyone looks at that incident, even Stevie Wonder would have sent the dirty fucking **** off. It doesn’t matter whether play has carried on for 44 mins after the incident when it’s as disgusting a tackle as that.
 
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