Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

bluethrunthru said:
her boyfriend has posted in support of this. So - last week the Party of the working people got all 5 MP's to vote against better protections for - checks notes - the working people. Today their policy is boycott the legion because of diversity and inclusion - we know what the true racist undercurrents behind this move are but bear in mind that inclusivity is also about the British Legions inclusive support of veterans with PTSD or who are amputee's or homeless - the Reform Ltd grift is vile but thankfully keeps exposing its true self time and again

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Poundland Eva Braun I'm not surprised she's telling people to boycott buying poppies.
 
It really amuses me that some people think these grifting, tax-dodging, billionaire twats are in some way friends of the 'working class.'

Sure they are, like Bernard Matthews is a friend of turkeys.

I just can't get my head around it, but then I'm not a racist bigot who wants to blame all the UK's problems on nasty foreigners and brown people.

All these cunts want is power and if they get it they won't use it in a benevolent way.
 
was listening to an interesting bit on the Radio today that a lot of new MP's - particularly Reform Ltd - want the systems within Parliament changed. In the debates MP's "bob" to get called to alert the Speaker that they wish to contribute. Convention is that you attend the start - listen to the contributions and "bob" in order to get picked and make your case. If you get called and instead of making a contribution you use it to grandstand you will have jinxed your chances in future debates.

What occurred to me is that it seems for some its all about grandstanding - I want people to listen to the debate from the start and then make a meaningful contribution based on the debate they have heard. Much of Parliament is ripe for review and possible modernisation but having people attend and do their job in full rather than treat it like a reality TV show is not on
 
30p Lee - seconds away from saying to the interviewer "fuck off and let me through that door " as he is being exposed as part of a Party that are all talk and no detail as ever. They are a bit stuck when there are no migrants on beaches

 
bluethrunthru said:
was listening to an interesting bit on the Radio today that a lot of new MP's - particularly Reform Ltd - want the systems within Parliament changed. In the debates MP's "bob" to get called to alert the Speaker that they wish to contribute. Convention is that you attend the start - listen to the contributions and "bob" in order to get picked and make your case. If you get called and instead of making a contribution you use it to grandstand you will have jinxed your chances in future debates.

What occurred to me is that it seems for some its all about grandstanding - I want people to listen to the debate from the start and then make a meaningful contribution based on the debate they have heard. Much of Parliament is ripe for review and possible modernisation but having people attend and do their job in full rather than treat it like a reality TV show is not on
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You can see parliament in action on BBC Parliament on the telly. I don't spend my life watching it, far from it, but it is interesting, in an unintersting sort of way, to see just how boring life as an average MP can be in the chamber.

We all see the clips on the news showing PMQ's and passionate debates about headline legislation, where both sides of the chamber are baying for each other, but for the most part there are only a handful of MP's present discussing, in an adult manner across the floor, legislation regarding, say, the transport of live animals act or something else that is mundane and of little interest to most of us, but is nevertheless the bread and butter of parliament. Apart from the minister responsible for the issue in question being at the despatch box, it's just backbench MP's talking about boring minutiae.

I agree with you wholeheartedly that many MP's grandstand, and they are usually the more prominent members. I've seen debates of national importance take place in a civilised manner to begin with, then all the grandees turn up half an hour or so before the division bell rings and it descends into the usual madhouse.

The issue Reform finds itself in, with 4 MP's, is it is largely irrelevant. It is a party with no more influence in Westminster than the Greens or Plaid Cymru. They receive far more publicity, but that matters not one jot in the corridors of power.

If Reform want to change the way parliament works, they could make a start by offering policies that appeal to the electorate and win a majority. Seeing as most people in the UK vote for left of centre parties, that's unlikely to happen anytime soon. They can stamp their feet all they like and protest about the perceived injustice of having little to no representation in all party committees, but that's the way it works when you are a minority party.

I know they advocate proportional representation to give them a more equitable representation of their vote share in the House of Commons, a voting system I have been an advocate of for many years, but that's unlikely to happen as it doesn't benefit the big two.

Reforms only chance of us adopting PR if it means so much to them, is a campaign to rejoin the EU. It's a cornerstone of entry that must be instigated for us to be considered serious applicants.

Ironic, but that's the way it is.
 
I wonder when Clacton are gonna demand the receipts? If I were Labour I deny he could be ambassador but say he could be a special trade advisor charged with getting us a UK/USA trade deal securing the best deal for the UK he could but as a full time job he would have to sack off the GBNews job and step down as an MP also to report only into the PM's office with details of progress.

Dream job if he takes it absolute confirmation that he is Trumps fluffer with no influence who needs the income from his main jobs here in the UK then make him do them

 
They are like some pissed-up bloke in a pub who has all the answers to everything.

Sit them in an office with the paperwork and legal advice and they wouldn't have a fucking clue. But the appeal to simpletons who think that incredibly complex issues can be solved by chatting shit and 'saying it as it is.'

Unfortunately, at least a large minority of the population are simpletons when it comes to the great political issues and very easily manipulated by the cynical plutocrats who dominate the media and do not give a shit about this country, its people, or anything else except their own bank accounts.
 
Every day they have a gripe and with every gripe they become aware of how insignificant they are the grand scheme of things

 
Really bad form to wear Party rosettes at a Remembrance Day Parade - also note there is not a medal ribbon amongst them too - "patriots"

 
Pedestrian said:
Musk will start supporting these cunts next. They’ll replace the tories at the next election.
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They really won't they have not got the infrastructure to do so and in the British system you need money and boots on the ground they have money but their support is confined to the few loonies that exist in every constituency, have we mentioned candidates? They found it very difficult to attract decent candidates last time around and ended up with lots of ex BNP people, in reality that's all Reform are a slightly larger reincarnation of the BNP they poll a slight bit higher but not by much

At the moment they are very useful to Labour as they take votes away from the Tories and very few away from Labour It's worth having a fractured right wing than a unified right wing, and Reform will not take over the tory party it's true that they have shifted the tories to the right again it's another advantage for Labour on could argue that Farage is actually a Labour plant
 
Ducado said:
They really won't they have not got the infrastructure to do so and in the British system you need money and boots on the ground they have money but their support is confined to the few loonies that exist in every constituency, have we mentioned candidates? They found it very difficult to attract decent candidates last time around and ended up with lots of ex BNP people, in reality that's all Reform are a slightly larger reincarnation of the BNP they poll a slight bit higher but not by much

At the moment they are very useful to Labour as they take votes away from the Tories and very few away from Labour It's worth having a fractured right wing than a unified right wing, and Reform will not take over the tory party it's true that they have shifted the tories to the right again it's another advantage for Labour on could argue that Farage is actually a Labour plant
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Trump took over the republican party. Farage will take over the tories. Traditional conservatives are done. They’ve been eaten up by the loons and dax.
 
Pedestrian said:
Trump took over the republican party. Farage will take over the tories. Traditional conservatives are done. They’ve been eaten up by the loons and dax.
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Yes that's kind of true, however the UK and the USA are very different countries generally extremists don't get many votes, I don't like our system and would prefer some form of PR however it works well in preventing extremists getting a foothold

If reform did a reverse takeover of the Tory party it would be an even bigger disaster for them, Trump in power is not a particularly edifying example, it's going to be a clown show, which will not be good for any party that want's to ape his natavisem

Also you forget that there are a lot of centre right voters who vote labour it's one of the ways they can get in power, if a centre right Tory party emerges Labour will be in trouble
 
Ducado said:
Yes that's kind of true, however the UK and the USA are very different countries generally extremists don't get many votes, I don't like our system and would prefer some form of PR however it works well in preventing extremists getting a foothold

If reform did a reverse takeover of the Tory party it would be an even bigger disaster for them, Trump in power is not a particularly edifying example, it's going to be a clown show, which will not be good for any party that want's to ape his natavisem

Also you forget that there are a lot of centre right voters who vote labour it's one of the ways they can get in power, if a centre right Tory party emerges Labour will be in trouble
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If it’s not farage it’ll be that scruffy **** who thinks he’s Winston. Badenoc and that thick twat aitkins were trumping it up at the farmers protest yesterday like a pair of twats. Out politics mimics what that lot are doing only it takes time to cross the pond. I’ve no doubt the tories are finished as we’ve known them. There’s enough idiots in this country to cause a problem for Labour. The press coverage of the farmers protest is a good example of how the right wing media will assist any trump like wannabe.
 
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