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I firmly believe it is. I’ve seen in my industry a shit load of factories close down over the years. It’s hard to buy into the idea that everything’s basically fine, when I’ve seen it myself that it isn’t.

And it’s not just factories. Digital ID, HS2, immigration, energy prices, net zero, pick one. Tory or Labour it’s the same shite.

Brexit was sold as one thing, turned into another, covid contracts were a free for all, HS2 chopped to bits. Hard to take any of them seriously anymore when it’s just promise and then u turn, repeat.

Now this is going make me sound like a proper nostalgia merchant, but I can remember when I was in my teens in the early 2000’s, the parks and recreation grounds were spotless. The park behind my parents house used to pristine, about ten immaculate bowling greens, tennis courts, nicely mowed grass. Parks around the area were the same, but they are all mostly run down now. No attention is given to them. It may be a shit example to you, but I often think what went wrong in those 20 years for things to be so half arsed now? The country is on its arse in so many ways.

The financial crisis and then our government choosing austerity happened, which should be a warning to anyone not to vote reform.
 
Understandable that people may be angry, but why would they turn to Reform?

I suppose this will show where the country is at the moment and whoever comes out on top will have something to shout about.

For me, I find it hard to understand how people could vote against themselves.

They're stupid and believe all the crap they read on facebook.
 
Noticed a lot of the right of the forum have gone a bit quiet on this Tories 2: Electric Boogaloo thread, hard to defend a guy defending the actions of ICE, saying the world would be safer if we gave Greenland to Donnie, and failing to condemn Trumps words on British Troops in Afghanistan.

Some actual helmets unfortunately probably agree with him. Want Trump to invade us to get rid of 'liebour'
 
Noticed a lot of the right of the forum have gone a bit quiet on this Tories 2: Electric Boogaloo thread, hard to defend a guy defending the actions of ICE, saying the world would be safer if we gave Greenland to Donnie, and failing to condemn Trumps words on British Troops in Afghanistan.

Some actual helmets unfortunately probably agree with him. Want Trump to invade us to get rid of 'liebour'
Unfortunatley its not just helmets and cranks, it is people who have been susceptible to the constant coverage and attention they get on social media and the beeb and skys obsession with live streaming their press confrenfces.

I was out the other week. with some old friends I haven't seen for about a year, one has had it rough with family deaths and a long term health issue, pretty much been off work for 6 months and spent a lot of time on socal media. Now this person is smart and in the past compassionate and fairly reasonable on migration and such, the subject came up this time it was starmer is a communist who waa giving pur cpuntry to immigrants, christians are being killed off and as I, joked tgey spund like the loons who want trump tp take over they agreed it would be a good thing.

I was supprised by this but I hear people at work mutter more reform rhetoric and nonsense.
 
There was a poll on a Gorton FB page the other day and 70% said they’d vote Reform. Dickheads.
It won’t be an accurate representation of the final result. The shouty ones usually dominate social media while the silent majority tend to keep things to themselves and for months Reform supporters have been shouting from the rooftops.

Despite that, there’s been plenty of pushback against Reform on the Gorton FB page that I’m a member of.
 
Unfortunatley its not just helmets and cranks, it is people who have been susceptible to the constant coverage and attention they get on social media and the beeb and skys obsession with live streaming their press confrenfces.

I was out the other week. with some old friends I haven't seen for about a year, one has had it rough with family deaths and a long term health issue, pretty much been off work for 6 months and spent a lot of time on socal media. Now this person is smart and in the past compassionate and fairly reasonable on migration and such, the subject came up this time it was starmer is a communist who waa giving pur cpuntry to immigrants, christians are being killed off and as I, joked tgey spund like the loons who want trump tp take over they agreed it would be a good thing.

I was supprised by this but I hear people at work mutter more reform rhetoric and nonsense.

I should imagine there's at least a third on here, minimum, who will be voting reform and have swallowed all the bullshit.
 
Sorry, more betting market info from me (tends to be a lot more informative). Only £10,000 bet so far (that's small change) but it looks like Gorton and Denton will be fought between the Greens and Reform. Incredible, probably our most extreme left and right parties squaring up. Labour are 5/1 with the Greens favourites around 11/10 and reform around 6/4. Change is happening before our very eyes.
If it was a straight shoot out between Green and Reform in a GE, I wonder who would win? I’d like to think Green, but I can’t be sure.
 
wow - imagine - you were a Tory MP who lost at the last election - eg Gullis - go over to Reform and prostrate yourself before the ego then a by-election comes in and you are over looked for a racist"intellectual" to get the gig !!
Gullis would be a terrible Reform candidate for Denton and Gorton. I’m not saying he could never be an MP again, but no way for Denton and Gorton.
 
It won’t be an accurate representation of the final result. The shouty ones usually dominate social media while the silent majority tend to keep things to themselves and for months Reform supporters have been shouting from the rooftops.

Despite that, there’s been plenty of pushback against Reform on the Gorton FB page that I’m a member of.

Anything remotely political posted on social media and it’s flooded with ‘vote reform’ ‘stop the boats’ and it’s all from bot farms. The people stoking the flames in the USA and getting Trump elected are bang at it here in the U.K. and across Europe with Musk and his PayPal mafia. It’s very easy to send susceptible people down the rabbit hole when you control the algorithm.

Reform need to be careful with their rhetoric when it’s something like 40 percent of Denton and Gorton is of ethnic minority. Their racist rhetoric won’t connect with all the potential people they need to win this seat, so what else can they offer?
 
I can't believe that I'm typing this but the best thing for the country right now is the Conservatives to get back on track and select an electable leader. Unless they split the right wing vote we heading down a dark path.
 
Reform need to be careful with their rhetoric when it’s something like 40 percent of Denton and Gorton is of ethnic minority. Their racist rhetoric won’t connect with all the potential people they need to win this seat, so what else can they offer?

Tax cuts for millionaires. Gorton and Denton are full of them. They moor their yachts on the Ashton Canal.
 

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