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[Postman Pep]

Comrade.

As long as I breathe I shall fight for the future. In our eyes, individual terror is inadmissible precisely because it belittles the role of the masses in their own consciousness... and turns their eyes and hopes toward a great avenger and liberator who someday will come and accomplish his mission.

Leon Trotsky

 

[Rascal]

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I hate that ****, he blocked me on twitter a long ago.

How can anyone vote Labour when cunts like him are in the party.

 

[The blue phantom]

I hate that ****, he blocked me on twitter a long ago.

How can anyone vote Labour when cunts like him are in the party.

How can anyone vote for Starmer when he stated Israel have the right to turn the water taps off for the Palistinians. Its fuckin incredible how anyone can vote for either of these Two big Party's.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

How can anyone vote for Starmer when he stated Israel have the right to turn the water taps off for the Palistinians. Its fuckin incredible how anyone can vote for either of these Two big Party's.

It’s probably down to voting not just being about Israel.

 

[Rascal]

How can anyone vote for Starmer when he stated Israel have the right to turn the water taps off for the Palistinians. Its fuckin incredible how anyone can vote for either of these Two big Party's.

Having read Asa Winstanley's book weaponising anti semitism i am shocked at the influence that that the Isreal lobby has on our politics. For balance i read Peter Oborne's book The fate of Abraham.

What is clear to me is that outside forces influence our politics and that disturbs me. Labour has an organisation called Labour friends of Isreal , it also has Labour friends of Palestine.

I would rather the Labour party have Labour friends of the working class,

 

[Postman Pep]

I hate that ****, he blocked me on twitter a long ago.

I did notice you sparring with thelastblairite on Twitter the other day .... another insufferable ****. Don't know how you put yourself through it.

How can anyone vote Labour when cunts like him are in the party.

I suppose because most people don't know and don't really care, they are just looking towards the only viable alternative in a 2 party system. That said the very same people can't appear to get their head around why things like Brexit, Trump and, bringing it back to the thread, these cunts gain traction.

 

[The blue phantom]

It’s probably down to voting not just being about Israel.

For me statements like that supercede everything else he says which is positive. It's just horrendous. I get your point though Millions of folk won't even bat an eyelid on those words he said

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

For me statements like that supercede everything else he says which is positive. It's just horrendous. I get your point though Millions of folk won't even bat an eyelid on those words he said

I get your horror, I really do and wish for a peaceful solution asap over there.

Whatever a politician says about the powder keg situation over there immediately alienates half of the electorate though.

I just don’t think a UK general election should be decided on one topic, whether that be Israel or immigration.

No politician is going to have 100% of your views either. It’s always a compromise.

 

[hilts]

I did notice you sparring with thelastblairite on Twitter the other day .... another insufferable ****. Don't know how you put yourself through it.

I suppose because most people don't know and don't really care, they are just looking towards the only viable alternative in a 2 party system. That said the very same people can't appear to get their head around why things like Brexit, Trump and, bringing it back to the thread, these cunts gain traction.

The Labour supporters on here all know who he is and also what Starmer said, you can only conclude they just dont care.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

The Labour supporters on here all know who he is and also what Starmer said, you can only conclude they just dont care.

It's about having a more pragmatic view of the process. Rascal is never going to get the politics he wants as it's just not popular. We have 3 or 4 out of every 10 UK voters intending to vote tory or reform. Starmer has taken the steps necessary to maximise the appeal of labour in order to win. Labour need 40% plus. If that means sitting on the fence on a number of issues then most labour voters are OK with that. Corbyn plaid the strong principles approach and lost big time. My principal approach is I want a labour party which can win. I'm in my 40s and Blair is the only labour leader to have beaten an incumbent tory government in my life time. Winning is the starting point.

 

[hilts]

It's about having a more pragmatic view of the process. Rascal is never going to get the politics he wants as it's just not popular. We have 3 or 4 out of every 10 UK voters intending to vote tory or reform. Starmer has taken the steps necessary to maximise the appeal of labour in order to win. Labour need 40% plus. If that means sitting on the fence on a number of issues then most labour voters are OK with that. Corbyn plaid the strong principles approach and lost big time. My principal approach is I want a labour party which can win. I'm in my 40s and Blair is the only labour leader to have beaten an incumbent tory government in my life time. Winning is the starting point.

None of that explains why you as an indiviual are giving your suppprt to a man who brought Akehurst into the party or publicly says starving kids is acceptable.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

None of that explains why you as an indiviual are giving your suppprt to a man who brought Akehurst into the party or publicly says starving kids is acceptable.

Both points in your question are false.

Starmer is not responsible for bringing people in to the party. Anyone is free to join and free to express a view. Only when things cross a line is there a decision to be made and Starmer tries to keep out of that unlike his predecessor.

And Starmer has never said that starving kids is acceptable.

If you can't keep the discussion based on reality there's no point going on.

 

[BayernMan]

 

[bluenova]

Sadly, Farage seems to be putting a lot of effort into courting the same teens/young men as Tate.

My daughter is 19, and says Farage is all over tiktok, saying lots of things that young people want to hear, but being very careful not give them a true picture of his views.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The Trump playbook being deployed - he is also bitching about FPTP and erring towards PR. its odd it never bothered him previously when he lost 7 elections and UKIP were polling at 25% not the 19% Reform Ltd are now

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[xgorton]

Reform= NF,BNP,and Brexit,all shit all of them.

 

[Kippaxpete]

Got to say I'm a communist

How strange, therefore, you should choose Bob Hope as your BM moniker given that was a raving right wing Republican throughout his life.
; )

 

[The blue phantom]

Both points in your question are false.

Starmer is not responsible for bringing people in to the party. Anyone is free to join and free to express a view. Only when things cross a line is there a decision to be made and Starmer tries to keep out of that unlike his predecessor.

And Starmer has never said that starving kids is acceptable.

If you can't keep the discussion based on reality there's no point going on.

Tbf I think Hilts has got food and water mixed up, Starmer did 100% state Israel has the Right to withhold Water from the Palestinian people. Either way like me and others have said it's an abhorrent and horrific thing to say. He shouldn't be anywhere near Number 10 on that quote alone.