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Lee wants the none existent country back that he and other 57 year olds fought and died in WW2 for

 
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When people say 'I want my country back' what do they mean? In precise, objective terms.

This country is the place I live. It has never been 'mine' in any sense, so I can never get it back as I never owned it in the first place. It is owned, as it always has been, by a tiny clique of excessively rich people who allow the rest of us to argue over a minority stake in it.
 
BrianW said:
When people say 'I want my country back' what do they mean? In precise, objective terms.

This country is the place I live. It has never been 'mine' in any sense, so I can never get it back as I never owned it in the first place. It is owned, as it always has been, by a tiny clique of excessively rich people who allow the rest of us to argue over a minority stake in it.
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Just a hunch but I think it might be about racism.

Too many black and brown people on their streets for them to feel comfortable.

Reminds me of a BNP video where some Welsh men went to Wembley "the Mecca of football" (said without irony) when complaining about Muslim men from the subcontinent (or of subcontinent origin) wearing "pyjamas" and polluting the area that should be all white on the night.
 
BrianW said:
When people say 'I want my country back' what do they mean? In precise, objective terms.

This country is the place I live. It has never been 'mine' in any sense, so I can never get it back as I never owned it in the first place. It is owned, as it always has been, by a tiny clique of excessively rich people who allow the rest of us to argue over a minority stake in it.
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It's a version of the 'Golden Age' myth in education.

Many people believe there was a 'Golden Age' circa 1955 when schools were perfect when all pupils rocked up bright, shiny and anxious to learn and all classes were well-behaved.

It's total bollocks of course. As is the subset that wants grammar schools back. (I went to one and it was fucking shite.)

Nostalgia is all very well, but it's no basis for running a modern country.
 
BrianW said:
It's a version of the 'Golden Age' myth in education.

Many people believe there was a 'Golden Age' circa 1955 when schools were perfect when all pupils rocked up bright, shiny and anxious to learn and all classes were well-behaved.

It's total bollocks of course. As is the subset that wants grammar schools back. (I went to one and it was fucking shite.)

Nostalgia is all very well, but it's no basis for running a modern country.
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There are aspects of yesteryear that would be mostwelcome in today's society I would suspect.

a couple of examples, certainly from me growing up in originally Mossside and then Fleetwood before fleeing the nest

Being able to go out and not fear of getting home safely
Being able to go out at night without fear of what was around the corner
Not locking doors when going out
Kids not having to be in a gang
Police and other emergency services respected and not attacked
 
mosssideblue said:
There are aspects of yesteryear that would be mostwelcome in today's society I would suspect.

a couple of examples, certainly from me growing up in originally Mossside and then Fleetwood before fleeing the nest

Being able to go out and not fear of getting home safely
Being able to go out at night without fear of what was around the corner
Not locking doors when going out
Kids not having to be in a gang
Police and other emergency services respected and not attacked
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Have you ever gone out and not got home safely?
Have you ever been able to enjoy a night out?
Why would you not lock your doors when going out?
Kids don’t have to be in gangs
All peolle with authority are undermined constantly on social media. The vast majority do respect the police and emergency services in real life.
 
mosssideblue said:
There are aspects of yesteryear that would be mostwelcome in today's society I would suspect.

a couple of examples, certainly from me growing up in originally Mossside and then Fleetwood before fleeing the nest

Being able to go out and not fear of getting home safely
Being able to go out at night without fear of what was around the corner
Not locking doors when going out
Kids not having to be in a gang
Police and other emergency services respected and not attacked
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I must be fortunate to live in an area where all those things apply. Not the unlocked doors bit though. That ain’t happening anywhere.
 
the grift is working the gullible are contributing to a company but not getting any shareholding for their money

 
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