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[Big Joe Corrigan]

Great tune.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I’m starting to see how well they did in so many places. I suspect largely pissed off Tory voters too.

 

[snorky]

I think it does.

I was talking about people voting differently than they normally would to rid a county of an odius mp.
You posted a video of a twat wanting to shoot boats.

Never mind though mate. It was funny :)

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I have found that when people are called racist, it is because they are actually racists and racists tend not to think of themselves as racists because they have a friend who is a different colour to themselves.

It is called "othering" and Reform are good at that.

What reform are exceptionally good at though is making poor people believe that their problems are almost exclusively down to foreigners. Brexit was going to deliver untold benefits to the poor because ‘the EU’. What’s sad is the same charlatans are now using a general ‘if it wasn’t for the foreigners’ you’d have great wages, open access to healthcare and cheap housing and the same people are falling for it.

 

[Damocles]

I’m starting to see how well they did in so many places. I suspect largely pissed off Tory voters too.

It's immigration. It's always immigration. Brexit was purely immigration.

For 30 years, a large amount of people in this country have been telling political parties that they want less immigration and for 30 years they've been called racists, ignored and eeventually been made promises that were broken.

When you don't listen to the electorate then they will punish you. Brexit was a punishment. Reform is a punishment. And until we have a strict immigration system, the electorate will keep on punishing the two major parties. It won't go away. They need to be listened to and only Reform is listening to them which is why they abandoned the Tories and a shockingly large number of Labour voters

 

[Cielo Azul]

Immigration is good, and we need it.

Uncontrolled mass immigration of free loaders isn’t. It’s very simple.

An Austrlian styled points system just seems like common sense.

Yes some are refugees, but I’m not having even a quarter of them are. Why are most of them men? Where are women and children?

I was in the hospital with my wife last year, honestly we were the only English speakers in a packed room. Waited hours for a simple but important appointment as every person before us needed an interpreter.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

By 8.30am I heard Tice banging on about the "unfair voting system" in the UK ( FPTP) as I predicted. The odd thing is ( not ) he, Farage and the rest have never been bothered about a move to PR before and with 4 MP's why on earth would they think Labour with over 100 times that number of MP's could be persuaded to change a system that delivered them a landslide - deluded.

Becomes an interesting conundrum for reform does this and I’m looking forward to the squirming and double standards already.
We’ve had a referendum on PR and it was massively voted against.
Presumably Tice/Farage will demand another referendum. There is, of course, only one problem with that approach and that’s the bit I’m looking forward to most….

 

[Rascal]

Basically if you think mass immigration of thousands of people arriving on boats with no checks, then housing them for millions of pounds a day is bad, you are racist.

I want controlled immigration and strong border controls, i do not want people having to cross the channel in small boats in order to seek asylum, i do not want potential asylum seekers being housed in hotels costing millions of pounds.

I am not a racist, I want a system that works and i want there to be legal routes for people to enter this country so we do not have to spend millions on hotels.

The difference is I want a system that works for everyone, racists want a system that does not work for anyone.

 

[Magicpole]

What reform are exceptionally good at though is making poor people believe that their problems are almost exclusively down to foreigners. Brexit was going to deliver untold benefits to the poor because ‘the EU’. What’s sad is the same charlatans are now using a general ‘if it wasn’t for the foreigners’ you’d have great wages, open access to healthcare and cheap housing and the same people are falling for it.

Fools and their votes, easily parted.

 

[Cielo Azul]

I want controlled immigration and strong border controls, i do not want people having to cross the channel in small boats in order to seek asylum, i do not want potential asylum seekers being housed in hotels costing millions of pounds.

I am not a racist, I want a system that works and i want there to be legal routes for people to enter this country so we do not have to spend millions on hotels.

The difference is I want a system that works for everyone, racists want a system that does not work for anyone.

Isn’t that what Reform have said they want?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

It's immigration. It's always immigration. Brexit was purely immigration.

For 30 years, a large amount of people in this country have been telling political parties that they want less immigration and for 30 years they've been called racists, ignored and eeventually been made promises that were broken.

When you don't listen to the electorate then they will punish you. Brexit was a punishment. Reform is a punishment. And until we have a strict immigration system, the electorate will keep on punishing the two major parties. It won't go away. They need to be listened to and only Reform is listening to them which is why they abandoned the Tories and a shockingly large number of Labour voters

And then what though?
We know that the roots of poverty, poor life chances, a poor NHS, collapsed care sector, poor access to housing and a diabolical education system will not be solved and will, in fact, be much worse, with no immigration. They blamed the EU for years and its currently migrants in general.
Let’s assume immigration was stopped tomorrow, we all know none of those issues would be addressed so who would be next on the ‘blame list’? Mostly the poorest in society currently pinning their hopes on Reform, I’d imagine.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I want controlled immigration and strong border controls, i do not want people having to cross the channel in small boats in order to seek asylum, i do not want potential asylum seekers being housed in hotels costing millions of pounds.

I am not a racist, I want a system that works and i want there to be legal routes for people to enter this country so we do not have to spend millions on hotels.

The difference is I want a system that works for everyone, racists want a system that does not work for anyone.

Worked much better whilst we were in the EU though, which you also want no part of. The conundrum is, population is getting older and the replacement has slowed right down. We used to get workers from the EU who often stayed for a relatively short time whilst we now get them from much further afield, with more dependents, with absolutely no plan to ever leave. It’s a right buggers muddle and no mistake.

 

[Rascal]

Isn’t that what Reform have said they want?

No, Reform wants a freeze on immigration, that is very different to having a system that works for everyone. Their stance is a system that works for the people who do send people across the channel on small boats. There has to be legal routes into the country, if there is not you simply cannot control immigration as has been proved over the last few years. Whatever gimmick the Tories tried that they hoped would appease the racists failed because quite simply, there are no legal routes to get to the UK.

 

[Cielo Azul]

No, Reform wants a freeze on immigration, that is very different to having a system that works for everyone. Their stance is a system that works for the people who do send people across the channel on small boats. There has to be legal routes into the country, if there is not you simply cannot control immigration as has been proved over the last few years. Whatever gimmick the Tories tried that they hoped would appease the racists failed because quite simply, there are no legal routes to get to the UK.

Sending them back as soon as they arrive will stop the boats.

There are legal routes. Same as the routes we have to take if we want to emigrate.

 

[Rascal]

Worked much better whilst we were in the EU though, which you also want no part of.

What i wanted at the Brexit referendum was not on the ballot, i thought the status quo was unworkable. I wanted a fully integrated EU with an elected President with supra national political parties. I was not against the EU I was against the status quo as it was not working and is still not working.

 

[MCFC Wirral]

I spent far too much time in hospital in recent years and was cared for by a number of Indian nurses who were exceptional at their jobs. They must never stop key workers coming here.

 

[Cielo Azul]

I spent far too much time in hospital in recent years and was cared for by a number of Indian nurses who were exceptional at their jobs. They must never stop key workers coming here.

The NHS would collapse without immigration.

But how many of these arriving on boats are doctors and nurses?

 

[MCFC Wirral]

The NHS would collapse without immigration.

But how many of these arriving on boats are doctors and nurses?

Exactly. We had two Doctors from Iraq in my share when I rented in Liverpool doing their training. A pair of gents.

 

[threespires]

"My plan is to build a mass national movement." I bet it is, tomorrow belongs to you eh Nigel, you absolute jeremy hunt.

Labour needs to recognise it's single biggest task is to make the lives of ordinary people decent enough that this malignant scumbag has a smaller pool of people to prey on going forward.