I see Ben Habib has left them. He gave his reason as the structure of Reform. Basically there are very few shares in the PLC, Farage owns more than 60% and so any donation to them is effectively a personal one as he has complete control as the major shareholder. Apologies if this is mentioned further back in the thread but I haven't time to read it all.
Is that why he keeps it as a Ltd Co, so that he can use the funding for himself.I see Ben Habib has left them. He gave his reason as the structure of Reform. Basically there are very few shares in the PLC, Farage owns more than 60% and so any donation to them is effectively a personal one as he has complete control as the major shareholder. Apologies if this is mentioned further back in the thread but I haven't time to read it all.
I'm not referring to his fall out months ago. He was interviewed earlier this week after the Farage/Musk meeting had taken place and he specifically referred to the structure of Reform and how Farage is set to benefit personally by any cash input. I've no time for any of them but it was an interesting take on how things may progress.No he hasn't - he was sacked - fucked off for another Asian bloke (multiculturalism innit mate?) who had more money.
Habib knew when he was part of the whole crew what was going on its just because he was bounced out he is now spilling his guts to anyone who will listen
Don´t think we´ve quite descended to the clown car shit show that is the US of A ......yetStill think Reform will be gone by the next election however their key players will be leading the Tories by then, and Farage will be the next PM however well Labour does because, as we’ve seen in the USA, people can be persuaded to vote against their best interests by a manipulative media which will ignore any achievements by Labour, instil a sense of victimhood amongst the population and promise simple answers to complicated questions that appeal to the hard of thinking.
Hope I’m wrong but long term I think we’re fucked.
Two words.Don´t think we´ve quite descended to the clown car shit show that is the US of A ......yet
I´d like to believe we still have some semblance of an inate sense of fairness and justice
It will all depend who offers the best package at the time. If Labour do OK and bring a sense of well-being to the country, then they’ll probably continue.Still think Reform will be gone by the next election however their key players will be leading the Tories by then, and Farage will be the next PM however well Labour does because, as we’ve seen in the USA, people can be persuaded to vote against their best interests by a manipulative media which will ignore any achievements by Labour, instil a sense of victimhood amongst the population and promise simple answers to complicated questions that appeal to the hard of thinking.
Hope I’m wrong but long term I think we’re fucked.
I think a lot depends on the economy. I don't think individual govts have as much sway on this as they would like us to think unless they do something utterly stupid like Truss. If Starmer can catch the crest of a global economic wave as Blair did in 97 then I think the country will be in a much better place - especially if interest rates/ inflation are lower. If not, and with the Tories in such a mess then reform or whatever guise farage etc take may seem like the alternative.Still think Reform will be gone by the next election however their key players will be leading the Tories by then, and Farage will be the next PM however well Labour does because, as we’ve seen in the USA, people can be persuaded to vote against their best interests by a manipulative media which will ignore any achievements by Labour, instil a sense of victimhood amongst the population and promise simple answers to complicated questions that appeal to the hard of thinking.
Hope I’m wrong but long term I think we’re fucked.
It’s not how the economy is actually performing, more how it’s perceived. The US economy has been the strongest major economy in the world since the pandemic but people have been persuaded that it’s terrible because prices aren’t what they were after global inflation hit in the post pandemic period and prices haven’t come down. So they’ve voted for a moron because he sad he’ll reduce the price of fucking eggs. Even if he doesn’t he’ll say he has and mugs will believe him. Complete shit show over there and I’ve no confidence we’re any more sensible as an electorate.I think a lot depends on the economy. I don't think individual govts have as much sway on this as they would like us to think unless they do something utterly stupid like Truss. If Starmer can catch the crest of a global economic wave as Blair did in 97 then I think the country will be in a much better place - especially if interest rates/ inflation are lower. If not, and with the Tories in such a mess then reform or whatever guise farage etc take may seem like the alternative.
Long way to go. Let's see how well Trump does, people seem to forget his approval rating was rock bottom when he left last time and he's already showing signs of massive incompetence. Our next election will align with the US 28 or just after and that could put different perspective on things.Still think Reform will be gone by the next election however their key players will be leading the Tories by then, and Farage will be the next PM however well Labour does because, as we’ve seen in the USA, people can be persuaded to vote against their best interests by a manipulative media which will ignore any achievements by Labour, instil a sense of victimhood amongst the population and promise simple answers to complicated questions that appeal to the hard of thinking.
Hope I’m wrong but long term I think we’re fucked.
We all know how well Trump will do. There’s a pretty good chance he’ll cause a global recession which in this country will be blamed on Labour.Long way to go. Let's see how well Trump does, people seem to forget his approval rating was rock bottom when he left last time and he's already showing signs of massive incompetence. Our next election will align with the US 28 or just after and that could put different perspective on things.
Still think Reform will be gone by the next election however their key players will be leading the Tories by then, and Farage will be the next PM however well Labour does because, as we’ve seen in the USA, people can be persuaded to vote against their best interests by a manipulative media which will ignore any achievements by Labour, instil a sense of victimhood amongst the population and promise simple answers to complicated questions that appeal to the hard of thinking.
Hope I’m wrong but long term I think we’re fucked.
It will and I'm getting frustrated at the lack of action by the government to curtail its political influence.Exactly how I see it and called it for a few months now , except I could see Reform over taking conservatives- either way, Musk + social media propaganda will have a huge sway. I so hope I’m wrong
Reform Treasurer - Rich ****
Reform Treasurer - Rich ****
Elon Musk - Very Rich ****
To paraphrase Mrs Merton; "So Nigel...What attracted you to billionaires...?
Can't argue with that.Simplistic view.
Labour front bench mostly rich cunts by any sort of normal margin.
We are ruled by a political elite regardless mate.