Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

What other choice do these people have? It has to be recognised what led to Reform leading the polls, it was 15 years of Tory failure on issues that Reform voters today clearly care about. The one saving grace for them was Brexit and certainly Boris Johnson recognised that which is why he won the 2019 election very comfortably.

I know a ton of blokes at my work who are very open Tory/Brexit voters and the final straw for them was the axing of Boris. They maybe could of lived with Truss but her axing and the installment of Sunak unopposed was too much. Last years election was the price of that, I know all of them voted Reform.

The real problem for Reform voters is the simple fact that they're nailing their flag to Farage and Farage won't be there in 3-4 years time. He is a political campaigner but making money is more important to him than winning. He'll be long gone before Reform need to seriously think about whether their policies are feasible.

It wouldn't surprise me to see farage somewhere near the front of a rebranded and more rw conservative party by the next ge. If they think it will get them into power again they wouldn't have any issues with fage being their candidate for pm either - no worse than Boris.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

These views have been held for years and regularly posted on Bluemoon.

And have been getting worse as time moves on... 25 years of consistent Labour control.

Who are reliant on central funding. Did you ever ask yourself why Wales were fucked over by the Tories?

 

[Marklr]

If you go on the Reform website and look at their policies, you will see that they are not serious. They're blagging the less intelligent members of the public.

 

[hampshireblue]

Labour in Wales.....

Apart from the corruption of the first minister, taking backhanders for his leadership campaign (which eventually led to his resignation...) where a 200k payment was made by a company that was bidding for and awarded a massive Welsh government contract - the same company that was prosecuted for pollution issues

the terrible performing NHS (worst in the UK)

and ambulance service

Welsh Ambulance Service declares critical incident

More than 340 calls were waiting to be answered when the critical incident was declared.

www.bbc.co.uk

and the education levels being at an all time low....

Pisa: Wales slumps to worst school test results

Wales' scores are the UK's lowest, and the results gap has widened in reading, maths and science.

www.bbc.co.uk

Add to that the stupid policy of introducing a blanket 20 mph speed limit across the country which literally no one complies with and a huge majority of the country wanted rescinded but they refused to listen....

and the fact they, even though they are broke, are going to INCREASE the Welsh parliament by around 50% at the next election

and the amount of money they have spent on looking into an M4 relief road over £100m spent only for it to be axed.... and it is very much needed.

M4 relief road: Proposals cost £114m before scheme was axed

Plaid Cymru said the spending was "obscene" but a minister said the money was not wasted.

www.bbc.co.uk

There are countless other ventures that have been started, millions paid to contractors only for them to stop suddenly... note the date 2022.... and it has been being promised for decades and here 3 years later, nothing has happened..

The Welsh village that will soon see a £250m adventure resort built next door

The proposed £250m Wildfox adventure resort has just been approved by Neath Port Talbot Council

www.walesonline.co.uk

Sitting on their hands when British Steel needed intervention to save jobs....

Apart from the above which barely represents all their complete failures.

In order to avoid being accused of being biased i can give you one positive.... and that is free NHS prescriptions..

All the above and a whole lot more after 25 continuous years of a Welsh Labour Government

I'm not sure there is anything here that is vastly different from the rest of the UK.

My wife is from a very small mining village in the Valleys. Interestingly the one thing you see as a benefit ie free prescriptions, is one of the first things she would get rid of. Her view is that it has lead to and "entitlement culture". This is backed up by people she knows and, indeed a family member, claiming repeat prescriptions despite the fact they don't actually need the drugs as they still have stuff left over. When asked why they have a cupboard full of "lotions and potions", the reply is "because I'm entitled to it".

 

[inbetween]

It wouldn't surprise me to see farage somewhere near the front of a rebranded and more rw conservative party by the next ge. If they think it will get them into power again they wouldn't have any issues with fage being their candidate for pm either - no worse than Boris.

I can't see it personally. I think the Tories are far too embedded in donors and big business to accept him. The Tories are a broad church but financially they're dominated by big business and the big finance in the city of London.

Those prefer dead duck candidates such as Jeremy Hunt who can just be bent to their whims. They don't want somebody like Farage who let's face it would probably do a Trump and seriously damage or disrupt the markets.

Farage would just prove a divisive character, he already struggles enough within Reform who have to wrestle with being a party of the more far-right or a party of business and sort of centre Toryism. They're struggling to find policies with both of these, ie, let's have a hefty anti-immigrant policy but no racism please... It doesn't really work in reality.

 

[BigJoe#1]

I'm not sure there is anything here that is vastly different from the rest of the UK.

My wife is from a very small mining village in the Valleys. Interestingly the one thing you see as a benefit ie free prescriptions, is one of the first things she would get rid of. Her view is that it has lead to and "entitlement culture". This is backed up by people she knows and, indeed a family member, claiming repeat prescriptions despite the fact they don't actually need the drugs as they still have stuff left over. When asked why they have a cupboard full of "lotions and potions", the reply is "because I'm entitled to it".

Hmmmmm the fact that there is for funding a separate government sets Wales apart for one.

The health performance and the poor Education performances should be of concern to everyone in Wales.

Why does the Welsh Parliament feel the need to increase the number of representatives? Each member of the British parliament has around 105K constituents whereas Wales has only 78k constituents per assembly member, yet the Welsh parliament is increasing its number by 36 or 60% (from 60 seats to 96) next year ... All the time they claim to "have no money" and to be underfunded... talk about "jobs for the boys and lining their own pockets it is absolute crazy bonkers. The problem is at the time this was proposed Labour had a majority and could do whatever they liked. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

The M4 is a bottleneck just before Newport - coming into Wales. It is a problem that needs sorting. They have paid ore than £105m on "consultancy" and scrapped it - dropped like a hot potato without a shovel going in the ground.

No big firms are ever going to invest big time in Wales for as long as this key arterial route is blocked off.

Employment figures: In the fourth quarter of 2024, the unemployment rate in the United Kingdom was highest in Wales, where it was 5.4 percent, followed by England at 4.5 percent, Scotland at 3.8 percent, and 1.6 percent in Northern Ireland, the lowest rate among the four countries of the UK.18 Feb 2025

All of the above has been overseen by a Welsh Labour Government for 25 years.... They really have had their noses in the trough for too long. As for the Tories getting in down here.... there's more chance of United winning this years CL. The election results next year will make interesting reading.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Who are reliant on central funding. Did you ever ask yourself why Wales were fucked over by the Tories?

Maybe but the Labour Blair government was in power for the first decade or so...

I am afraid it is pure greed.

 

[BigJoe#1]

I'm not sure there is anything here that is vastly different from the rest of the UK.

My wife is from a very small mining village in the Valleys. Interestingly the one thing you see as a benefit ie free prescriptions, is one of the first things she would get rid of. Her view is that it has lead to and "entitlement culture". This is backed up by people she knows and, indeed a family member, claiming repeat prescriptions despite the fact they don't actually need the drugs as they still have stuff left over. When asked why they have a cupboard full of "lotions and potions", the reply is "because I'm entitled to it".

Your last paragraph sums it up quite nicely and is indicative of why we have Labour in Wales and why the Tories will never get in.

As for the prescriotions, I keep getting asked what have the Labour party done in Wales that is good.... and that is it, though the NHS is so badly run there are checks or controls (that I can see) to monitor spending.

 

[hampshireblue]

Your last paragraph sums it up quite nicely and is indicative of why we have Labour in Wales and why the Tories will never get in.

As for the prescriotions, I keep getting asked what have the Labour party done in Wales that is good.... and that is it, though the NHS is so badly run there are checks or controls (that I can see) to monitor spending.

This is very contradictory-along with your voting intentions. My last para is all about the failure of a free prescription policy. The free prescriptions are the very thing that have led to the entitlement and waste. I'm sure Jamie Wallace MP didn't exactly promote the Tory cause. Anyway enjoy your Reform vote but remeber the grass isn't always greener...Is that another Tom Jones song?? lol

 

[bluethrunthru]

I'm not sure there is anything here that is vastly different from the rest of the UK.

My wife is from a very small mining village in the Valleys. Interestingly the one thing you see as a benefit ie free prescriptions, is one of the first things she would get rid of. Her view is that it has lead to and "entitlement culture". This is backed up by people she knows and, indeed a family member, claiming repeat prescriptions despite the fact they don't actually need the drugs as they still have stuff left over. When asked why they have a cupboard full of "lotions and potions", the reply is "because I'm entitled to it".

sorry but I don't believe you - its something you have heard and taken as gospel. I am on quite a few meds (thankfully being over 60 they are free otherwise i'd be picking which think to treat this week ). There are 2 ways you can do this. One would be to order a repeat prescription every month at the surgery. If you get a months supply of a drug but are ordering replacements say every 3 weeks questions will be asked. In this day and age drug spend is closely monitored.
Second is you can order a batch prescription which is 6 months worth of repeats (this is what i do ) so every month a prescription is drawn up and sent to the pharmacy. They in turn text you when 28 days are up just and your supplies are exhausted so there is no "stocking up" of unused meds. If you are on a batch every 3 months you are called into the surgery or the pharmacy for a review of meds - anything causing issues - anything new cropping up - that kind of thing so anyone stockpiling unused meds would be found out and adjustments in supply are made.

 

[BigJoe#1]

sorry but I don't believe you - its something you have heard and taken as gospel. I am on quite a few meds (thankfully being over 60 they are free otherwise i'd be picking which think to treat this week ). There are 2 ways you can do this. One would be to order a repeat prescription every month at the surgery. If you get a months supply of a drug but are ordering replacements say every 3 weeks questions will be asked. In this day and age drug spend is closely monitored.
Second is you can order a batch prescription which is 6 months worth of repeats (this is what i do ) so every month a prescription is drawn up and sent to the pharmacy. They in turn text you when 28 days are up just and your supplies are exhausted so there is no "stocking up" of unused meds. If you are on a batch every 3 months you are called into the surgery or the pharmacy for a review of meds - anything causing issues - anything new cropping up - that kind of thing so anyone stockpiling unused meds would be found out and adjustments in supply are made.

Not sure but I think what @hampshireblue is saying is the drugs are being collected and then just not used... regardless of this the people carry on collecting them simply because they're free.

I am on 10 tablets a day, so I am thankful that they are free, though I think being over 60 would qualify me in any case.

I just phone the chemist about 10 days before my current batch runs out and then collect them 2 days later, though they will deliver for free if I choose. Not a bad scheme for those that need it but is open to abuse.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Not sure but I think what @hampshireblue is saying is the drugs are being collected and then just not used... regardless of this the people carry on collecting them simply because they're free.

I am on 10 tablets a day, so I am thankful that they are free, though I think being over 60 would qualify me in any case.

I just phone the chemist about 10 days before my current batch runs out and then collect them 2 days later, though they will deliver for free if I choose. Not a bad scheme for those that need it but is open to abuse.

Not if its properly audited by the surgery and the pharmacy then over ordering can be identified and stopped. As for just getting them and not taking them then i presume the thing they are prescribed to treat will simply get worse and a GP visit would identify that say your angina was getting worse because you were not taking the meds? Or the patient would be admitted to hospital/die?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Just watching their PPB - Once again he parrots that "no ifs or buts" every person that comes here will be deported. No suggestion as to how or where to nor even at what cost. Went on to say you can't get a GP appt because of immigrants. I was at my GP's at 11.50 today for blood to be taken for analysis. Were it not for migrant workers then the white British contingent would have been me, the receptionist and a guy collecting samples who popped in from an NHS van.

Seeing my dentist Friday - she is nice. She is Romanian.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Not if its properly audited by the surgery and the pharmacy then over ordering can be identified and stopped. As for just getting them and not taking them then i presume the thing they are prescribed to treat will simply get worse and a GP visit would identify that say your angina was getting worse because you were not taking the meds? Or the patient would be admitted to hospital/die?

Pretty much it @bluethrunthru except the auditing process just does not happen here (from people I know which is kind of confirmed by bluethruanthru . The only check is that the tablets are due ti be dispensed... i.e. if you went back more than 10 days before they're due they'd refuse... can be a ball ache sometimes if you're going on holiday. Your observation about any conditioning getting worse is I guess true but it is all very lax.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Pretty much it @bluethrunthru except the auditing process just does not happen here (from people I know which is kind of confirmed by bluethruanthru . The only check is that the tablets are due ti be dispensed... i.e. if you went back more than 10 days before they're due they'd refuse... can be a ball ache sometimes if you're going on holiday. Your observation about any conditioning getting worse is I guess true but it is all very lax.

where are you? I am in N Yorkshire and i am basically explaining my lived experience for over 5 years

 

[BigJoe#1]

where are you? I am in N Yorkshire and i am basically explaining my lived experience for over 5 years

South Wales mate... my lived experience too. About five years ago I was pulled up by my Chemist as I hadn't been taking my tablets and he noticed on his spreadsheet/database that I hadn't been in for a few months and basically gave me a bollocking.

 

[bluethrunthru]

South Wales mate... my lived experience too. About five years ago I was pulled up by my Chemist as I hadn't been taking my tablets and he noticed on his spreadsheet/database that I hadn't been in for a few months and basically gave me a bollocking.

working like it does here then? As money has got tighter in the NHS I think they have been watching the pennies and its not a Labour thing it pre-dates the last GE

 

[hampshireblue]

Not sure but I think what @hampshireblue is saying is the drugs are being collected and then just not used... regardless of this the people carry on collecting them simply because they're free.

I am on 10 tablets a day, so I am thankful that they are free, though I think being over 60 would qualify me in any case.

I just phone the chemist about 10 days before my current batch runs out and then collect them 2 days later, though they will deliver for free if I choose. Not a bad scheme for those that need it but is open to abuse.

There is indeed a bit of the former. However, I believe that at least in one case, the chap's benefits are dependant on some of the prescribed drugs and therefore he continues to have the heavy duty painkillers prescribed for his no longer applicable ailment. Indeed he actually offers the excess tablets he has in his possession to friend and neighbours.

 

[bluethrunthru]

There is indeed a bit of the former. However, I believe that at least in one case, the chap's benefits are dependant on some of the prescribed drugs and therefore he continues to have the heavy duty painkillers prescribed for his no longer applicable ailment. Indeed he actually offers the excess tablets he has in his possession to friend and neighbours.

this is illegal activity which you should report to the Police - its little different to peddling weed

 

[hampshireblue]

this is illegal activity which you should report to the Police - its little different to peddling weed

I agree, but as far as I'm concerned, it's heresay. Just like the couple across the road from him who "rent" their 2nd property to a family member who then claims the rent from the state. so the taxpayer is funding the mortgage.

Unfortunately free prescriptions drive bad behaviour. I turned 60 and suddenly became eligible rather than paying £110 per year for an annual exemption certificate. I now donate that £110 to cancer research + gift aid.

We're now along way from Reform though!!!