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Not bothered about the discrepancies, out of my control. You could have but chose not to indicate other more serious charges. Sorry, but in my eyes that is stirring the pot
Of course they are out of our control, nearly everything we debate on this forum is.

In my eyes you have avoided answering the question I posed. Which is a pity, I can only assume you didn't like your own conclusion.

Anyway have a good day. I'm out to walk the dogs in the rain and try and remove Sundays disaster further from my mind.
 
Of course they are out of our control, nearly everything we debate on this forum is.

In my eyes you have avoided answering the question I posed. Which is a pity, I can only assume you didn't like your own conclusion.

Anyway have a good day. I'm out to walk the dogs in the rain and try and remove Sundays disaster further from my mind.
I didn’t answer because I simply didn’t want to, nor have I looked at the examples you posted.
 
Ok fair enough lol.
What I would say is whether they got 10 weeks, 20 weeks or whatever, they will all live afterwards with a recorded criminal conviction which, if they were not career criminals, will fuck them over more than a few weeks porridge.

If they committed a crime, I have no sympathy
 
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Morning Mossi, Tbh It wasn't only that, he was using threatening behaviour and racial slurs towards left wing protesters.

The point is why was shouting at a dog even brought into the equation? it just makes the charges look a bit manufactured to me?

You can find threatening behaviour every Friday night at closing time in every City in the UK. Do these people get jailed for 20 mths?

So that leaves the unspecified racial slurs. In no way am I condoning them, it is a hate crime to engage in racial hatred, my point is does his above actions actually warrant 20mths in jail?

Now compare the above sentence with the behaviour of the two individuals below, who both engaged in actually physical assaults, one of which was racially motivated. These people received sentences of 4mths for assault and 3mths for racial assault.

Do you not think there is significant disparity in the sentencing in these three cases?



Both of those are for assault so it’s not comparable to violent disorder. Whether they’re fair sentences, we don’t know without seeing the judgments and how the guidelines were applied.
 

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