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[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

Didn't think it was half term this week

Nice response. About the level I'd expect for apologists for either of those parties. Cope harder.

 

[Blue and true]

Not sure this has been posted. Anyway a post from the Reform candidate challenging for Angela Raynors seat. Where the fuck do you start with something like this.

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Curiously, I don't know a single Muslim who is oppressive to women or anyone else for that matter. It's almost as if these lowlifes have an insidious, ulterior motive to push.

 

[Tiattos_Waterbottle]

I don't think class really enters into it. Basically, if you vote for the Tories after what they've "produced" over the last fifteen years, you're just a bit thick.

Class was not entered into it by myself. Someone on this thread on the right is claiming to speak for the working class, which is utter bollocks, no more than I claim to speak for anyone on the left who are working class. There are plenty of working class people who vote Tory or worse.

I just stated my view of working class voting against their benefit due to little Englander views is that they are class traitors who aren't interested in the betterment of the country, just having less non-white faces and restrict anyone who may need help, such as the Daily Fascist/Heil's usual targets of single mothers, the disabled, people with poor mental health and so on. People who cry about pride month. People who cry about BLM and so on it goes.

 

[BrianW]

I am always puzzled by people obsessed by Islamic/Sharia law. They never mention Mosaic Law as administered by the local Beth Din. In both cases, these 'courts' merely adjudicate between believers who choose to go before them. They do not bind non-believers, and indeed, strictly speaking, they don't even bind those who go before them, as an appeal to the king's courts is available to them, and the decision of the king's court is superior.

It's really no different to two farmers in Suffolk asking the local vicar to adjudicate a dispute between them. This type of informal adjudication of disputes has been going on in England since at least the Middle Ages.

 

[Blue and true]

Class was not entered into it by myself. Someone on this thread on the right is claiming to speak for the working class, which is utter bollocks, no more than I claim to speak for anyone on the left who are working class. There are plenty of working class people who vote Tory or worse.

I just stated my view of working class voting against their benefit due to little Englander views is that they are class traitors who aren't interested in the betterment of the country, just having less non-white faces and restrict anyone who may need help, such as the Daily Fascist/Heil's usual targets of single mothers, the disabled, people with poor mental health and so on. People who cry about pride month. People who cry about BLM and so on it goes.

Tend to agree. But when the 5th July comes and the Tories have been eviscerated, it will be because the vast majority in this country aren't thick and have the good sense to see what's been in front of them for five successive PMs now.

 

[Rascal]

If they are then that’s great, but still doesn’t really answer the question of where that polarisation occured in our respective paths. The easy answer might be university, but I voted along the same lines when I was 18 before even setting foot on a campus. If anything, I think university softened a lot of my more extreme positions.

I would be overjoyed if a member of my family or friends who voted Reform wanted to have an honest dialogue on how I reached my positions. I’ve often tried to engage in the other direction to understand how they’ve come to their decision, particularly with my late step father who I loved dearly. But his answer was always “you’re young and you just don’t know enough yet”. Maybe he’s right. And this is all anecdotal.

But this isn’t me being cynical, I’m genuinely interested in the factors that lead people to their political choices.

I believe the polarisation process began just after the Iraq war, which led to mass movements of refugees and of course Blair's failure to implement some checks and balances like the other members of the EU when freedom of movement was established. Those two occurrence's opened the door for the likes of Farage et al to become more mainstream and even gain a modicum of respectability. Then Cameron scared of losing an election introduced the BREXIT referendum policy which he expected to be blocked by Clegg. When the Lib Dems collapsed he was left with a policy he didn't want, couldn't stop and didn't support.

In Germany, the post WW2 policy of offering the German diaspora a home was translated by Merkel into an open door immigration policy and in the wake of the Syrian and Afghan wars led to even more refugees being lured to Europe.

Across Europe the right is on the rise, they have exploited peoples fears of the other. Think Farage's breaking point poster, there are other reasons too such as climate change and food poverty in the sahel and religious discrimination in parts of the sub sahara

It is well worth watching the video that Zen posted, that shows how easy it is for tyranny to succeed and I fear tyranny is where we are heading.

 

[maxwellblue]

Nice response. About the level I'd expect for apologists for either of those parties. Cope harder.

haha, using terms like "deform" are about what I'd expect from a 12 year old.

 

[hcblue95]

Right wing governments always increase inequality. You can't claim to care about reducing the gap between the richest and poorest while voting for parties that funnel money off to the richest 1%.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

He's still stuck in the remedial class, banging on the windows because he couldn't take being told no and that he was wrong so he's had to play the ringer ever since.

He’s quite something though. Proper University of Life graduate. Vibes guy, not detail. Hasn’t got over Gordon Brown calling some he relates to a bigot in 2010. Fuelled his hatred ever since.

Add that to the Dunning-Kruger effect of not needing to reference anything as he knows all the answers better than anything or body else could do and you get this vitriolic bile day after day.

I guess the big give away in his limited intellect is his choice of insults. Whilst they sound great to him, they make him look like the nincompoop he is.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

haha, using terms like "deform" are about what I'd expect from a 12 year old.

How many 12 year olds do you talk to online?