Religion

[Blue Mist]

All you unbelievers are wrong and will face eternity living at the Swamp as rag fans forced to watch re-runs of the 1-6

I am the true light, believe in me and send me a fiver every Sunday, (plus pay for my house car and a grand a week) and I will save you pathetic sinners.

Throw in an extra 20 and you can shag a choir boy of your choosing

 

[I'm With Stupid]

People only stay believing because they're too scared to question their faith. It plays on the fear of what happens when we die....otherwise NOBODY would bother with religion.

I wish that was true, but if religion disappeared tomorrow, it would be back again within a generation. People love believing in unprovable bullshit and then being a part of some "special" group that gets it. Look at all of the conspiracies that have popped up in just the last two years since covid. Puritanism basically came out of a syphilis epidemic. The 'god of the gaps' phenomenon is real, and religion and conspiracy often emerges when people feel let down by the authorities (science being the main one in modern society) or things are happening outside of their control. Some opportunist will always be there to offer a 'solution.'

Women are far more likely to be users of alternative medicine, and one suggested reason for this was that medicine has historically failed women by basing almost everything on men, using the male body as a default, and taking their health issues less seriously. When you look in developing countries, these traditional and folk medicines occur more often amongst people who can't afford or don't have access to evidence-based medicine. When people can afford it, they usually go to a proper doctor. Within rich countries, it's not surprising to see a lot of these sorts of fads emerging from America, where people often struggle to access affordable healthcare. It also therefore not a massive surprise to see far higher rates of religiosity there.

 

[Marklr]

I wish that was true, but if religion disappeared tomorrow, it would be back again within a generation. People love believing in unprovable bullshit and then being a part of some "special" group that gets it. Look at all of the conspiracies that have popped up in just the last two years since covid. Puritanism basically came out of a syphilis epidemic. The 'god of the gaps' phenomenon is real, and religion and conspiracy often emerges when people feel let down by the authorities (science being the main one in modern society) or things are happening outside of their control. Some opportunist will always be there to offer a 'solution.'

Women are far more likely to be users of alternative medicine, and one suggested reason for this was that medicine has historically failed women by basing almost everything on men, using the male body as a default, and taking their health issues less seriously. When you look in developing countries, these traditional and folk medicines occur more often amongst people who can't afford or don't have access to evidence-based medicine. When people can afford it, they usually go to a proper doctor. Within rich countries, it's not surprising to see a lot of these sorts of fads emerging from America, where people often struggle to access affordable healthcare. It also therefore not a massive surprise to see far higher rates of religiosity there.

Makes a lot of sense. I think if religion DID disappear and then reappear, it wouldn't have so much power this time round and would be looked at in the same way as the Flat Earth. But yeah, it's the same as cults; they prey on the vulnerable. Or the stupid, in some cases.
In most cases, believers will turn AWAY from anything that may contradict their beliefs...it's like they know it could be BS, but it gives them some meaning.

 

[journolud]

I disagree . Billions of people worshiping a non existent diety is not good for the future of our species! Its like kids growing into adulthood and still beliving in Santa Claus. The sooner we deal with reality ,as a species , the better.
Its better to admit that we don't know if theres a creator out there , then to make up fairy tales about it.

I think there are bigger realities our species need to face to ensure a healthy future. Now where is the climate change thread

 

[journolud]

It’s the very least we can do given the two millennia of abuse, torture and death their previous religious adherents put upon those that believed in a different and/or no deity.

They, unlike people burned at the stake or stoned to death, can always avoid clicking on the thread and save themselves said mocking for irrational belief system.

A bit harsh to blame the little old lady next door who goes to church every Sunday for all the evils done in the name of religion. A bit like blaming all current Englishmen for the exploitations of the empire. Still, luckily I don’t think she is on bluemoon

 

[SWP's back]

A bit harsh to blame the little old lady next door who goes to church every Sunday for all the evils done in the name of religion. A bit like blaming all current Englishmen for the exploitations of the empire. Still, luckily I don’t think she is on bluemoon

I don’t blame anyone mate. But I reserve my right to mock.

 

[JRockBlues]

Shows where the church's priorities lie when a gay teacher at a Roman Catholic school in Queens, NY was fired from his post for getting married but they're happy enough to protect the pedophiles amongst them.

 

[crublue1]

What about the amount of mental solace that religion gives children and adults ?

What about it?
Mental solace? You really think that a child needs mental solace? I've heard it all now. That's a made up term to rationalise indoctrination of children into the cult of religion.
Children don't need mental solace, they need educating, and less than 1% of that education needs to be about the madness of religion. The sooner we move away from fucking crackpots spouting shite, and get on with the real world, the better

 

[crublue1]

All you unbelievers are wrong and will face eternity living at the Swamp as rag fans forced to watch re-runs of the 1-6

I am the true light, believe in me and send me a fiver every Sunday, (plus pay for my house car and a grand a week) and I will save you pathetic sinners.

Throw in an extra 20 and you can shag a choir boy of your choosing

Tune into Christian fm or any similar radio station.
It's not long before they ask you to send them money, so they can "continue to spread the message"
Fucking con artists, preying on the weak willed.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

A bit harsh to blame the little old lady next door who goes to church every Sunday for all the evils done in the name of religion. A bit like blaming all current Englishmen for the exploitations of the empire. Still, luckily I don’t think she is on bluemoon

I mean there are a couple of things here. Firstly, the little old lady isn't responsible for the historical actions of the church, but assuming she is putting money in the collection plate, she is funding their current actions. And if she's a Catholic, that includes the continuing cover-up of child abusers. Let's be honest, if the Catholic church was just a charity relying on donations, they'd have been finished a long time ago. But because they're a religion, people will continue to fund them no matter how despicable they get. And that's the problem with religion.

You see it in India all the time. Some guru is caught basically using religion as a front for widespread sexual assault. Anyone else who raped loads of people would be in police protection to avoid being strung up. A religious figure gets accused and all of their supporters are out on the street and it's the victims and the police themselves that have to be given protection. There was a similar story in (I think) Romania of a British paedophile who went there and got away with abusing kids because he was a "religious figure". When the BBC tried to confront him, they were attacked by an angry mob.