Religion

paulsimpson said:
lol
The little bitty boat. Such ignorance . Do you know the dimensions of the Ark? I'll help you.
14Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; make rooms in the ark and coat it with pitch inside and out. 15And this is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high.16You are to make a roofe for the ark, finish its walls a cubit from the top,f place a door in the side of the ark, and build lower, middle, and upper decks"
Cubit is from elbow to tip of middle finger - 1.5 feet . Bog boat. 450 ft x 75x 50
Why build such a big boat ?
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Whose arm were they using to measure a cubit?
 
paulsimpson said:
lol
The little bitty boat. Such ignorance . Do you know the dimensions of the Ark? I'll help you.
14Make for yourself an ark of gopher wood; make rooms in the ark and coat it with pitch inside and out. 15And this is how you are to build it: The ark is to be 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high.16You are to make a roofe for the ark, finish its walls a cubit from the top,f place a door in the side of the ark, and build lower, middle, and upper decks"
Cubit is from elbow to tip of middle finger - 1.5 feet . Bog boat. 450 ft x 75x 50
Why build such a big boat ?
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How did a single extended family travel across oceans to all parts of the world, (most of which the Bible doesn't mention at all) - North America, Central America, South America, Arctic, Antarctic, Australia, and all the hundreds of islands across the world with unique animals. Then also journey through the vast neverending forests, jungle, mountains etc, picking up 2x each animal, penning them and then moving onto the next 2, all the while foraging for them and feeding the previously caught, then transporting back on (previously unmentioned in the bible) boats, with enough food for them.

The very small dimensions of the Ark are a mere trifle of idiotic believing, compared to the logistics of actually travelling to, locating, collecting, feeding, and transporting back all the land animals of the world and putting them in the Ark, with an singular extended family.

As per previous: Go and seek help, you really need it.
 
Sarutaka said:
Christianity is quite different from islam, so there is no real advocacy for slavery unlike islam.
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As Diarmaid MacCulloch observes at one point in his vast history of the faith, ‘The Epistle to Philemon [authored by St. Paul] is a Christian foundation document in the justification of slavery.’

A little further on, he adds that, ‘By the fourth century, Christian writers like Bishop Ambrose of Milan or Bishop Augustine of Hippo were providing even more robust defences of the idea of slavery than non-Christian philosophers had done before them.’

This is because slavery was an indispensable institution in ancient society, and so while slaves could convert to Christianity, this did not entail that they would be freed. For example, one early treatise informed house-slaves that they should compare their sufferings to the unjust sufferings of Christ, in order that they should bear injustice as Christ had done.

Moving on to the USA in later times, when slave owning was legal, many Christian slave owners did not think that their black slaves had souls. For example, Jarena Lee was born into slavery in 1783, taken from her parents at the age of 7, and became a Christian preacher in 1804. In her preaching, she forgave all who harmed her. One white slaveholder who heard her speak changed his mind and ‘seemed to admit that coloured people had souls.’, though this did not, apparently, deter him from continuing to keep slaves.

Whether this is because slavery is implicitly condoned as an institution in the aforementioned Letter to Philemon is something that I need to check up on, but I hope that I have demonstrated that the track record of Christianity does not seem to be any better than Islam in this respect.
 
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mancity2012_eamo said:
Lions were vegetarian back then.
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They were vegetarian before the fall. After that as God removed His sustaining influence they began to be hostile to other creatures. When God finished His work of creation there was an idyllic, harmonious existence between earth, animals, and man. The world that we observe today is not very idyllic, and it is certainly not very harmonious. The fall of man brought this change about.
"And to every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth—everything that has the breath of life in it—I have given EVERY GREEN PLANT for food.” And it was so.
31And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good"
No death in paradise, so no carnivory (animals killing and eating animals) until Adam sinned and caused everything to begin to die. Then paradise was lost.
 
Just on the subject of Noah’s ark, the ancient Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh also contains a very similar flood narrative, as does the Akkadian Epic of Atrahasis.

What these narratives might preserve at best is the memory of some ancient natural disaster, maybe something like a tsunami, but that’s just me speculating.
 
paulsimpson said:
They were vegetarian before the fall. After that as God removed His sustaining influence they began to be hostile to other creatures. When God finished His work of creation there was an idyllic, harmonious existence between earth, animals, and man. The world that we observe today is not very idyllic, and it is certainly not very harmonious. The fall of man brought this change about.
"And to every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth—everything that has the breath of life in it—I have given EVERY GREEN PLANT for food.” And it was so.
31And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good"
No death in paradise, so no carnivory (animals killing and eating animals) until Adam sinned and caused everything to begin to die. Then paradise was lost.
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It’s paradise but you have to spend a large proportion of your day eating plants because the energy conversion rate is so poor.

Closest living example to compare to:

Mountain gorillas spend about half of the day eating. Rest periods take up approximately a third of the day.
 
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