Religion

[SWP's back]

"You wouldn't make up somebody who was humiliated, tortured and the killed by the enemies."

Unless they came back to as a zombie god that couldn’t die and they weren’t the messiah anyway, but simply the son of him.

Christ you’re gullible.

 

[feelymcfeel]

That's quite a long list of stuff to research into.

Bart Ehrman, famous scholar on NT textual criticism puts forward this argument : "The Messiah was supposed to overthrow the enemies – and so if you're going to make up a messiah, you'd make up a powerful messiah," he says. "You wouldn't make up somebody who was humiliated, tortured and the killed by the enemies."

You would if the whole essence of the religion was he died to cleanse humanity of its sins, and then was then resurrected three days later to conveniently completely disappear from our plane of existence, to satisfy old prophecies. Without the torture, humiliation, and death of Jesus, Christianity wouldn't exist.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

You would if the whole essence of the religion was he died to cleanse humanity of its sins, and then was then resurrected three days later to conveniently completely disappear from our plane of existence, to satisfy old prophecies. Without the torture, humiliation, and death of Jesus, Christianity wouldn't exist.

That sounds like a 20th century opinion.

Not sure it would have been a prevalent attitude in the Roman Empire.

 

[SWP's back]

You would if the whole essence of the religion was he died to cleanse humanity of its sins, and then was then resurrected three days later to conveniently completely disappear from our plane of existence, to satisfy old prophecies. Without the torture, humiliation, and death of Jesus, Christianity wouldn't exist.

Truth.

 

[Magicpole]

Outstanding mate. Not sure I believe the Holy Trinity came fae Glasgae though.
All in all I'd say that you're better at this lark than dealing with domestic appliances.

Well if he did exist, which he doesn’t, and he chose a city, which he didn’t, then he would have chosen my home town. And nobody could prove conclusively that he didn’t. That’s my story and i’m sticking to it.

For it is written, by me. Glad you enjoyed it though. Cheers.

 

[che_don_john]

The SS motto translated to "My honour is called loyalty.'

It was the Wehrmacht I was thinking of: "Gott Mit Uns"

 

[Metal Biker]

Isn't that based on the manuscripts we have available now ? It doesn't mean the idea of Christianity originated after a few hundred years AD. I don't know about Zeus other than some vague memory of a Greek God.

Strange isn't it... all these other religions and other cultures over thousands of years have prayed to other Gods and Deities, offering little more than hymns and mantras, yet it is only the Abrahamic God that felt the need to have everything specifically written down on how everyone should praise Him. Thrice.

 

[Metal Biker]

Unless they came back to as a zombie god that couldn’t die and they weren’t the messiah anyway, but simply the son of him.

Christ you’re gullible.

Are you speaking directly to the Saviour in question here...?

 

[better dead than red]

When a religion expands to new boundaries, over time it's possible that new ideas and interpretations come into it and sometimes skew the original doctrine. Most of the time the message is orally transmitted as the people are illiterate and do not have a copy of the scripture like we have today. The leaders and scholars of the faith has a responsibility to put it straight leading to the councils.

True. Islam is not the same in Africa as it is in Saudi Arabia, nor are Coptic Christian beliefs the same as Church of England for examples. They are much the same but do differ.

 

[SWP's back]

True. Islam is not the same in Africa as it is in Saudi Arabia, nor are Coptic Christian beliefs the same as Church of England for examples. They are much the same but do differ.

Because they are human led rather than Devine.