Replica watch - repairs

I was big into spunking money on expensive watches up until about 5 years ago when I realised I really didn't need one anymore.
Gave my dad, brother, and brother in law one each and have 3 more in a safety deposit box ready for my son when he's older. Gets one of his choice on his 18th and the other two when hes 21.
Dont miss them.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Presumably because they like how it looks. Why would anyone wear gold-plated jewellery? Having said that, I'd never buy counterfeit anything that is actually functional, because it's almost guaranteed to fuck up and there's no recourse when it does. Not that it makes a massive difference, to be fair. I've had a Tissot watch for 20 years and both times I've wanted to get it properly serviced/repaired by the manufacturer, i was late because the time was wrong :)
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Johnny Mars Bar said:
100% this.

I'm hoping to get my hands on an either an Explorer or Speedy in the next year or so, finances permitting. I plan to wear it every day, hence wanting something that flies under the radar. 99.9% of people wouldn't look twice at an Explorer or have a clue what it is.

And there's nothing cooler IMO than a supercar on 100k miles covered in stone chips.
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Grab a 1016 explorer or a c.321 speedy
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Show me the law on this, because it seems highly unlikely. Firstly, because it's not actually illegal to buy counterfeit goods, only to make and sell them. And secondly, because there is absolutely no due process. For all they know, I bought the product believing it to be genuine, brought it in for repair, and based on nothing but the say so of an employee of the manufacturer, it is taken from me.
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Nothing more than the say so of the manufacturer ha ha ha , it's covered under multiple laws Inc trade mark act 1994 , trading standards act & various others You can go to court and try to prove it's genuine, you also have legal right to a full refund from the seller
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Presumably because they like how it looks. Why would anyone wear gold-plated jewellery? Having said that, I'd never buy counterfeit anything that is actually functional, because it's almost guaranteed to fuck up and there's no recourse when it does. Not that it makes a massive difference, to be fair. I've had a Tissot watch for 20 years and both times I've wanted to get it properly serviced/repaired by the manufacturer, it's cost basically the same price as the watch cost originally.
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Plenty of tasteful watches out there that are a nice homage (see my comment on the Dan Henry above) without being a cheap fake or a direct copy homage ripoff (i.e the likes of Invicta).
 
jazzy said:
Nothing more than the say so of the manufacturer ha ha ha , it's covered under multiple laws Inc trade mark act 1994 , trading standards act & various others You can go to court and try to prove it's genuine, you also have legal right to a full refund from the seller
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Go on then. Where (specifically) in the law does it say that a company that believes its trademark has been infringed has the legal right to confiscate those goods? You can cite a law, but typically a law requires a legal process, it doesn't give power to private companies to seize the property of other private individuals.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Go on then. Where (specifically) in the law does it say that a company that believes its trademark has been infringed has the legal right to confiscate those goods? You can cite a law, but typically a law requires a legal process, it doesn't give power to private companies to seize the property of other private individuals.
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If it walks in thier shop it's theirs...period.

Similar carry-on getting a legit cartier or rlx into the states...strictly speaking you cant and have to notify em...
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Go on then. Where (specifically) in the law does it say that a company that believes its trademark has been infringed has the legal right to confiscate those goods? You can cite a law, but typically a law requires a legal process, it doesn't give power to private companies to seize the property of other private individuals.
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They pass it to trading standards who will take the appropriate action .All the major brands have investigation teams who work closely with them.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
It’s the 14270 I’m after - or a Speedmaster with the hesalite crystal.
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Yeah ..ive never been convinced a glossy dial works under a sapphire no matter how many times they say its been coated and a matt dial casts grey...acrylic all the way.

Every c.321 speedy is hesalite...so is every rlx 1016...the c.321 speedy is also column wheel...straight run from their lemania days.
 
Fat Chance said:
If it walks in thier shop it's theirs...period.
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Bollocks.
Fat Chance said:
Similar carry-on getting a legit cartier or rlx into the states...strictly speaking you cant and have to notify em...
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But that's because it's illegal to import counterfeit goods. So that's the crime there. And it's investigated by customs officials, who actually have the power to enforce the law. But in practical terms, unless you're bringing through large quantities of fake goods in original packaging with labels on, and are obviously looking to sell them, they're not going to do anything.

In terms of bringing legitimate products into a country, then yes, for high value items you have to declare them so that you can pay import duty on it. And again, failing to declare something is illegal. Simply owning a counterfeit watch is not (in the UK at least).
 
jazzy said:
They pass it to trading standards who will take the appropriate action .All the major brands have investigation teams who work closely with them.
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I'm sure they do. And Trading Standards are interested in people trading illegally, not individuals who happen to own a fake item they bought on holiday. And even Trading Standards have to take people to court first. Of course what actually happens if you bring a fake watch into a shop to get it serviced is that they will tell you its fake (or even ask you if it's fake), refuse to service it, and give it back to you. Which is what literally everyone says happens if you do a quick Google. I can't find a single other example of someone having a watch confiscated by a watch shop for being fake, and that's because it's obviously a one-off incident with a rogue shop, not a regular thing that shops are entitled to do.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
I'm sure they do. And Trading Standards are interested in people trading illegally, not individuals who happen to own a fake item they bought on holiday. And even Trading Standards have to take people to court first. Of course what actually happens if you bring a fake watch into a shop to get it serviced is that they will tell you its fake (or even ask you if it's fake), refuse to service it, and give it back to you. Which is what literally everyone says happens if you do a quick Google. I can't find a single other example of someone having a watch confiscated by a watch shop for being fake, and that's because it's obviously a one-off incident with a rogue shop, not a regular thing that shops are entitled to do.
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Tell you what pal why don't you buy a fake Rolex send it to Rolex and see what happens .
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Bollocks.

But that's because it's illegal to import counterfeit goods. So that's the crime there. And it's investigated by customs officials, who actually have the power to enforce the law. But in practical terms, unless you're bringing through large quantities of fake goods in original packaging with labels on, and are obviously looking to sell them, they're not going to do anything.

In terms of bringing legitimate products into a country, then yes, for high value items you have to declare them so that you can pay import duty on it. And again, failing to declare something is illegal. Simply owning a counterfeit watch is not (in the UK at least).
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I was talking duty paid legit items...both rx and cartier have an understanding with the american goverment that runs along the lines of whatever they say goes...

Had pals pre internet had brinks mat parcels crushed cause paperwork stated cartier amongst belongings....cartier usa said tuff shit take us to court...brinks said you'll go skint. Both companies are totally seperate entitys to any other swiss manafacturer.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
Go on then. Where (specifically) in the law does it say that a company that believes its trademark has been infringed has the legal right to confiscate those goods? You can cite a law, but typically a law requires a legal process, it doesn't give power to private companies to seize the property of other private individuals.
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I spoke to a friend in my building who is quite a high up lawyer with the Government. He agrees with you, nobody (except Police) has the power or right to confiscate your property. They acted illegally.
 
Johnny Mars Bar said:
Nobody does this. Real watch collectors, if they didn't want to wear an expensive piece in say central London for fear of it getting nicked would wear a cheaper piece from their collection.

No watch enthusiast would ever wear a fake.
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Simply not true mate.
My own son is a watch freak. He has Tag Huer, Tissot, Longines and a few others. He also has a couple of fake Tags, not the ones you buy on a Bali beach but from websites that sell well made higher quality "replicas"
There's not a lot you can tell him about watches. (and sneakers/trainers) :)
He works in a bank and sometimes wears the replicas to work.
 
Bill Walker said:
Simply not true mate.
My own son is a watch freak. He has Tag Huer, Tissot, Longines and a few others. He also has a couple of fake Tags, not the ones you buy on a Bali beach but from websites that sell well made higher quality "replicas"
There's not a lot you can tell him about watches. (and sneakers/trainers) :)
He works in a bank and sometimes wears the replicas to work.
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A serious watch collecter would have to think about a piece that was legit but not owning an in house movement....suped up eta's are designed for trainer collecters....trainer collecting is the seen and in house movements is about the merits of a free sprung balance.

Heuer ( ed) used to develop some nice in-house movements....
And Tag do a bit of arms dealing...
Totally different barra's
 
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