Return of Supporters

All the signs ahead of tomorrow's announcement is for sports stadiums to be near the end of the queue along with pubs and clubs which will not be open till May by the looks of things. Very slow return in spite of speed of vaccinations. Schools, then shops, then restaurants and pubs by May or June. Based on Tiers and restrictions linked to them.

Yet Government want to hold all the Euros games of they're on offer, with small crowds but only based on rapid testing. No suggestion of only those vaccinated being able to go, which is good given many will not have both doses till the autumn.
I'd settle for being able to attend some sort of victory parade late May hopefully safe enough by then...we'll not have cheered our boys on in person but we'll still be a part of it in person.
 
Those with jabs can still carry the virus, right? They're immune to symptoms but can still host the virus. My immunology understanding may be rusty though. So, beware anyone bringing you a matchday half and half scarf more than ever...

Would that be the half and half scarf with 'vaccinated' and 'not vaccinated'...?
 
Cant see how they will open up the travelling en masse eg to Wembley. Can see home games opening up if all goes well but maybe not this season
Won't happen - It's the media pissing in the wind as usual, trying to fill pages. They're talking about 4k 'fans' attending Euro matches (if held in UK), it'd be the same number for a cup final at Wembley. If it happens, do you honestly think that the 4k lucky 'fans' would be genuine fans?

There was talk some time ago about giving tickets for games to reward NHS/essential workers etc... That's the most likely scenario imo. Lets face it... If they leave it up to the club to select 2k fans to attend, it will probably be made up of staff, ex-players, Noel Gallagher, Tunnel Club members and very carefully selected Citizens competition winners.

I don't care how long it takes - Fans shouldn't be allowed in unless the whole stadium can be used. One in, all in.
 
The obvious answer, and I’d be amazed if it hits the target, is that the vaccine will only be 90% effective, meaning a good few mill will still be carriers!
It's a virus, meaning it's not going away. It's about risk mitigation.
Vaccinate, crack on, vaccinate, rinse repeat.
We need to get our heads up and accept it.
We are fortunate that it's mortality rate is low.
 
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All the signs ahead of tomorrow's announcement is for sports stadiums to be near the end of the queue along with pubs and clubs which will not be open till May by the looks of things. Very slow return in spite of speed of vaccinations. Schools, then shops, then restaurants and pubs by May or June. Based on Tiers and restrictions linked to them.

Yet Government want to hold all the Euros games of they're on offer, with small crowds but only based on rapid testing. No suggestion of only those vaccinated being able to go, which is good given many will not have both doses till the autumn.

Pubs with beer gardens could be allowed to open before Easter I've heard tonight.

Saying 29 March
 
Pubs with beer gardens could be allowed to open before Easter I've heard tonight.

Saying 29 March
A lot of this stuff we are 'hearing' can be traced back to those with vested interests rather than govt policy. Like last year I don't think the lock down will actually end - first sunny bank holiday weekend and every **** will just fuck it off.
 
Pubs with beer gardens could be allowed to open before Easter I've heard tonight.

Saying 29 March
Mate of mine runs a boozer and told me Easter way back in Jan, thought Christ surely it wont be that long. Amazing guess if hes right.
Things will open up quickly I think, including football.
The country had fooked finances before this pandemic so even the economy gets opened up or we have 4 Million unemployed.
End of March will look a lot different to today although I expect some doom and gloom tomoz to temper expectation.
 
Sat there in the pissing cold with a plastic glass paying silly prices, leave me out of this one.

Probably would have warmed up a little by then,like it has this last week or so,and I'm sure there will be shelters to keep your hair dry,however if you still not interested then that's fine,but like me I bet there are thousands who can't wait for a draught pint,and the year they have had,having one less customer like you won't affect the economy anymore.
 
A lot of this stuff we are 'hearing' can be traced back to those with vested interests rather than govt policy. Like last year I don't think the lock down will actually end - first sunny bank holiday weekend and every **** will just fuck it off.

We shall see what's said at 7pm,the vested interest has well passed mate,it's more of trying to get a glimmer of hope of normality what's being craved.
 
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Probably would have warmed up a little by then,like it has this last week or so,and I'm sure there will be shelters to keep your hair dry,however if you still not interested then that's fine,but like me I bet there are thousands who can't wait for a draught pint,and the year they have had,having one less customer like you won't affect the economy anymore.
Will be interesting to see how a nation that's used to 50p a can gets used to £5 a pint again.
 
Probably would have warmed up a little by then,like it has this last week or so,and I'm sure there will be shelters to keep your hair dry,however if you still not interested then that's fine,but like me I bet there are thousands who can't wait for a draught pint,and the year they have had,having one less customer like you won't affect the economy anymore.
I wonder how big your average British beer garden is? I suppose those with the room will take full advantage of it but hardly any city centre boozers will be worth opening & many where I live, if social distancing is still in play, you can only get a maximum of 10 in the garden.
I can't see many opening if this is the case. Shame as like you & many others, I'm gagging for a decent pint, in a glass and moaning about anything just like we were doing this time last year.
 
It's a virus, meaning it's not going away. It's about risk mitigation.
Vaccinate, crack on, vaccinate, rinse repeat.
We need to get our heads up and accept it.
We are fortunate that it's mortality rate is low.
Exactly this, we have to learn to with it so it will be staged return to normality. Speed will be dependent on how much protection the vaccines provides us and that’s difficult to predict with the speed the bloody thing evolves.
 
I wonder how big your average British beer garden is? I suppose those with the room will take full advantage of it but hardly any city centre boozers will be worth opening & many where I live, if social distancing is still in play, you can only get a maximum of 10 in the garden.
I can't see many opening if this is the case. Shame as like you & many others, I'm gagging for a decent pint, in a glass and moaning about anything just like we were doing this time last year.

A huge amount of brewers and pub co's (including my missus's lot, Heineken) are saying they simply will not be reopening for outside only. The limited numbers, plus staff costs, utility costs, loss of rent freezes and furlough payments lost, will just not add up to being worth their while.
For some wet led, that will still apply to when it's once again inside, but with limited numbers. Barely broke even last time round.
 
i think sport could cope with 10-20% capacity today and have little affect on the rates; but the biggest issue is travel.

Asking cities and local transport to cope with 5/10/15k people on buses, trains and trams is a big risk currently.

However, with the vaccine data looking positive and everyone in the UK maybe having 2 jabs in 2021 - im hopeful for 2nd half of the season to have a large volume of fans back.
 

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