Return of Supporters

Haha couldn't make it up.

Everyone should get an equal chance S/C holder or not as it's not fair but everyone can go to every game/has commitment elsewhere/money issues/work etc unless you've got more than 22k points. Seems that trying to please the top point earners and being fair to the members but shafting or certainly giving the shitty stick end to the majority of S/C holders is the way forward. Looking forward to the next Fans matter survey.

City need to be careful there's an awful lot of us, we've all had an inforced break from football, pissing 30-35k of your bread & butter fans isn't the smartest thing in the world.

Citymatters pushing any arguments away and blaming City, who are just as bad but the plan was originally CM inspired apparently which at least one of them seems pretty proud of...

I've 13k, would love to go if I get one great if not I'll record the game and play golf but every S/C holder minus pro rata corporates should all have an equal shot at a home game.
 
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Everyone who pays for a season card should have an equal right to get a ticket loyalty points should not come into it,

As this arguement on LP starts every year points are awarded differently for different things so the arguement that someone on 22000 point automatically has been to more HOME games than someone on say 140000 doesn't add up if you take i to consoderation someone who 10 years ago may have both been on 9000 but in the last 10 yrs one has gone platinum while the other cannot afford it and one suddenly had to reduce away games for personal reason, both though loyally attend every home game, well this is a home game so both of these people should have an equal footing.

Platinum fucked up the loyalty point system years ago and the arguement someone on higher points automatically has been going longer isn't necessararly always true.
 
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seafordblue said:
So loyalty points are being used for those above 22K points but not used for the rest of us. I wonder how many points the members of the influential group City Matters have..

It is like an away match with ticket numbers restricted to 10,000 so should be based on loyalty points. I shall enter the ballot, but disappointed that my 20K points count for nothing compared to a newbie.

I see that everyone attending has to wear a ridiculous, completely useless face nappy, so if I don't get a ticket, at least I'll be spared that hideous experience.
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I agree with you about the loyalty points, this kind of situation is what they’re there for. This is like an allocation for an away cup tie at Old Trafford. That wouldn’t go to a ballot, everyone would rightly kick off about it if it did, so why should this go to a ballot?

But the face mask comment - what does it matter? Fucking hell, I’ve been wearing them since February 2020, most have been since last Summer. I have to wear them in work all day, and you don’t even notice it’s there when you wear one so much. I’m even thinking of carrying on wearing them on public transport and in shops after all this is over, because I’ve not even had one hint of a sniffle since I’ve been wearing a mask, never mind a cold or the flu.
 
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urban genie said:
Everyone who pays for a season card should have an equal right to get a ticket loyalty points should not come into it,

As this arguement on LP starts every year points are awarded differently for different things so the arguement that someone on 22000 point automatically has been to more HOME games than someone on say 140000 doesn't add up if you take i to consoderation someone who 10 years ago may have both been on 9000 but in the last 10 yrs one has gone platinum while the other cannot afford it and one suddenly had to reduce away games for personal reason, both though loyally attend every home game, well this is a home game so both should be these people shpupd have an equal footing.

Platinum fucked up the loyalty point system years ago and the arguement someone on higher points automatically has been going longer isn't necessararly always true.
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That is true. Good point.

In complete contrast to what I’ve just said above… Look at my Grandad; started going to City games after WW2, stopped going around the time the Premier League started. Bet he’s been to more games than me but hasn’t got a single loyalty point. At 85 I bet he wished he could go to this game but because he hasn’t got a seasoncard he won’t be able to.

Do I have more right than him just because I’ve got a seasoncard or loyalty points?

This way is still definitely fairer than allowing foreign tour companies to get tickets for our big away games. So at least this will actually be City fans attending!
 
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The loyalty points system is a joke. It's no different the the super league. The rich just get richer and the poor have no chance. People with lots of points just continue to buy tickets for away game regardless of whether they can go or not, just to build their points. The number of tickets that get sold on here week in week out by the same members is ridiculous.

The sooner they scrap the points system the better. Ballot is the way forward
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
That is true. Good point.

In complete contrast to what I’ve just said above… Look at my Grandad; started going to City games after WW2, stopped going around the time the Premier League started. Bet he’s been to more games than me but hasn’t got a single loyalty point. At 85 I bet he wished he could go to this game but because he hasn’t got a seasoncard he won’t be able to.

Do I have more right than him just because I’ve got a seasoncard or loyalty points?

This way is still definitely fairer than allowing foreign tour companies to get tickets for our big away games. So at least this will actually be City fans attending!
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I agree if any tickets are given to any sort of travel package then that would be very wrong
 
Courtneyneild said:
The loyalty points system is a joke. It's no different the the super league. The rich just get richer and the poor have no chance. People with lots of points just continue to buy tickets for away game regardless of whether they can go or not, just to build their points. The number of tickets that get sold on here week in week out by the same members is ridiculous.

The sooner they scrap the points system the better. Ballot is the way forward
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Horseshit. Just FYI you don’t get points for away games anymore so that just isn’t true. And if you truly believe that members on here are consistently selling away tickets be sure to point them out and report them
 
Gingers Dad said:
Vast majority of most people's loyalty points come from home games. I go to every single home we play so I joined the cup schemes. I go to as many away games as my points allow through the season. I can't get a ticket for some away games because I haven't done enough over the years. I don't complain about it because there a people ahead of me that have earned it. Now I'm in a ballot with a lot of people who really just couldn't be arsed going to home games over the years.
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I’m the same as you, I’ve been in every cup scheme since I’ve had my season card and go to every home game, always if and when I can with work etc at least 1 European away day each season. I wasn’t expecting to be guaranteed a ticket, however, I do feel like for this a full ballot for anyone who attended at least 25% of last seasons home games would have been the fairest way. My reasoning for this over points is simple I see the points system as the selection criteria for away games, this is a home game and we have many people who go to every home game and have for years and they all deserve an equal chance.
 
i kne albert davy said:
They don't accrue double points and very few sell out above 22000 points bit of a myth I'm afraid.
Still think these tickets should have down the point's route.
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I was always under the impression you get 20 points for an away game and 10 for a home game?
 
Tonster said:
Horseshit. Just FYI you don’t get points for away games anymore so that just isn’t true. And if you truly believe that members on here are consistently selling away tickets be sure to point them out and report them
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I stand corrected on the away points. Obviously in the 20k + points category and not happy. The same people buying every game still stands though. Why should it be the same people that get to go to all away games, and now, the big games due to limited capacity
 
urban genie said:
But tbf that is inly a recent thing, so the point is half valid.

Anyway my problem is with platinum and buying loyalty not away dayers
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I agree platinum was a dreadful idea and don’t know anyone who thinks differently. But I’m fed up hearing about how a ballot is the way forward for away games. Even for Spurs at Wembley it was all the old faces (well masks) who were prepared to jump through hoops to ge there, just like over the last few decades, making personal sacrifices to support the club. My personal opinion fwiw (not much I know) is that this should have been done on loyalty points all the way down until they were sold like any restricted supply game. But I can see why they’ve tried to give everyone a chance.
 
Courtneyneild said:
I stand corrected on the away points. Obviously in the 20k + points category and not happy. The same people buying every game still stands though. Why should it be the same people that get to go to all away games, and now, the big games due to limited capacity
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It’s not the same people who go to all away games. If you have 20K+ points then you must do a reasonable amount of aways. It’s only the really popular aways that are very restricted. You really think then that those who just fancy the juicy games should be able to rock up and go via a ballot. Not for me I’m afraid.
 
Tried to please everybody but pissed off and alienated the vast majority of regular match going fans after a fifteen month break in games where people have been doing different things and perhaps have different priorities now......what could possibly go wrong.
 
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