Return of Supporters

Tonster said:
It’s not the same people who go to all away games. If you have 20K+ points then you must do a reasonable amount of aways. It’s only the really popular aways that are very restricted. You really think then that those who just fancy the juicy games should be able to rock up and go via a ballot. Not for me I’m afraid.
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So only the people with the most points should be able to go to the big games?

how is that fair?

you will probably say well I went to the rubbish midweek 15 years ago. I’d say back then you stood a much greater chance of getting ticket for the bigger away games and points didn’t matter as much. I don’t think it should be a closed shop

many people, especially younger fans cannot afford to go to say Swansea on a Wednesday night. A percentage of away tickets should go to a ballot to allow other fans a chance of going in my opinion.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
So only the people with the most points should be able to go to the big games?

how is that fair?

you will probably say well I went to the rubbish midweek 15 years ago. I’d say back then you stood a much greater chance of getting ticket for the bigger away games and points didn’t matter as much. I don’t think it should be a closed shop

many people, especially younger fans cannot afford to go to say Swansea on a Wednesday night. A percentage of away tickets should go to a ballot to allow other fans a chance of going in my opinion.
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That’s why they introduced the portion of away tickets for the young adults as well wasn’t it? To give them a chance
As I’ve pointed out many times away tickets are there every season for all seasoncard holders, you just have to make some effort
 
Tonster said:
If you have 20K+ points then you must do a reasonable amount of aways.
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How can this be a valid point without contradicting your point saying away games don't get points allocated.
obviously away games used to get points allocated and my original point still stands.
There's no way for me to earn more points than you unless you stop going to all games and buying a season ticket.
 
blue b4 the moon said:
Tried to please everybody but pissed off and alienated the vast majority of regular match going fans after a fifteen month break in games where people have been doing different things and perhaps have different priorities now......what could possibly go wrong.
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I’d say the majority of fans aren’t throwing a tantrum but have just shrugged and hoped for the best in a ballot. There’s 35,000 season ticket holders and then there’s maybe a dozen on here having a strop.
 
Courtneyneild said:
How can this be a valid point without contradicting your point saying away games don't get points allocated.
obviously away games used to get points allocated and my original point still stands.
There's no way for me to earn more points than you unless you stop going to all games and buying a season ticket.
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I’m afraid there’s no way for you to earn more ‘away’ points than me now as they’ve removed points for away games so neither of us will get points (I never said I agreed with it) but the idea was to stop people selling them on for points and not going to the games. I personally didn’t believe this was as big an issue as was made out. But in principle I believe the points system is pretty fair, fwiw I would do a rolling 10 year system which means naturally those who stop/slow down going would fall down the pecking order and those who start going to more games (including less popular ones first) would start to climb the ladder. But what do I know?
 
Blimey, stop moaning. Despite being a season ticket holder for donkey's years I don't have anywhere near those points. But good luck to those that have. They have obviously put a lot of effort into their support. I hope I get a ticket obviously as have been to so many big moments in the history of this club, and through thick and thin.
 
toffee balls said:
Nice little insight this into post pandemic effect on society.

Why wouldn’t you be happy for any blue attending whatever the circumstances.

I am truly appalled, I thought we as a fan base were well above this shit.
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I'd love that to be true but as a collective we're just a cross section of society like any other group. That said, some of the bitching and insulting from all sides on this thread has been pathetic.
 
The problem is that the crowd is limited to 10k. We can’t do anything about that. Good luck to anyone entering the ballot.

A few months ago there were hordes of people on here saying their years of match going support were over. I’m glad most of you have changed your minds, even if it reduces my chances of getting a ticket vs Everton.
 
Tonster said:
I’m afraid there’s no way for you to earn more ‘away’ points than me now as they’ve removed points for away games so neither of us will get points (I never said I agreed with it) but the idea was to stop people selling them on for points and not going to the games. I personally didn’t believe this was as big an issue as was made out. But in principle I believe the points system is pretty fair, fwiw I would do a rolling 10 year system which means naturally those who stop/slow down going would fall down the pecking order and those who start going to more games (including less popular ones first) would start to climb the ladder. But what do I know?
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I'd do a rolling 5-year system but yes, I agree with you in principle. There are people who have been dead 10 years who have more points than some who have been to every game in the past 5 years. It's madness.

I looked at my points history and it goes right back to the last year at Maine Road. That's insane. Phil Foden was in nappies. If you have been to lots of games in the last 5 to 10 years then you still have nothing to worry about under a rolling system. Scrap the disgraceful two-tier platinum scheme which gives people more points for signing up to a League Cup scheme than a gold season ticket holder gets for attending 19 league games.

One tier. One rolling scheme that rewards our fans who attend the most games but ensures that they keep having to attend games to stay at the front of the queue.
 
Good luck to all Blues in this ballot, given the last year I am just glad we have fans back inside supporting team, saying goodbye and thanking players/staff for a wonderful season that kept many of us sane, including myself.

I dont care which supporters get a ticket or the issues with the system used - just pleased we have chance and those who do attend will represent ALL Blues. Good Luck.
 
John Wayne said:
I'd do a rolling 5-year system but yes, I agree with you in principle. There are people who have been dead 10 years who have more points than some who have been to every game in the past 5 years. It's madness.

I looked at my points history and it goes right back to the last year at Maine Road. That's insane. Phil Foden was in nappies. If you have been to lots of games in the last 5 to 10 years then you still have nothing to worry about under a rolling system. Scrap the disgraceful two-tier platinum scheme which gives people more points for signing up to a League Cup scheme than a gold season ticket holder gets for attending 19 league games.

One tier. One rolling scheme that rewards our fans who attend the most games but ensures that they keep having to attend games to stay at the front of the queue.
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Totally agree. A rolling system has nothing for the high points holders to fear as long as they continue to go (myself included). I think the removal of away points has the opposite effect to what was desired and now if I go to no more games I still stay at the top. This needs to be reviewed IMO. Platinum is just a disgrace. Don’t know anyone who thinks it’s fair
 
A couple of things:

As previously stated, what is the logic of using away match criteria (points) for a home match?
Now that the pass has been sold and there is some sort of similarity between home and away matches (not my view just the effect of this particular allocation decision), when are we going to have ballots for away matches? (I am happy with loyalty points criteria but only for aways).
 
g180aj said:
I’m the same as you, I’ve been in every cup scheme since I’ve had my season card and go to every home game, always if and when I can with work etc at least 1 European away day each season. I wasn’t expecting to be guaranteed a ticket, however, I do feel like for this a full ballot for anyone who attended at least 25% of last seasons home games would have been the fairest way. My reasoning for this over points is simple I see the points system as the selection criteria for away games, this is a home game and we have many people who go to every home game and have for years and they all deserve an equal chance.
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We've all got different points of view but I don't see why a certain level of loyalty points gets a ticket?
 
Courtneyneild said:
The loyalty points system is a joke. It's no different the the super league. The rich just get richer and the poor have no chance. People with lots of points just continue to buy tickets for away game regardless of whether they can go or not, just to build their points. The number of tickets that get sold on here week in week out by the same members is ridiculous.

The sooner they scrap the points system the better. Ballot is the way forward
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What is kind of funny about this is most built the points up in the hope of getting to a CL final.

Let's see how that pans out.
 
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