Right back options

Dubciteh said:
He is abs terrible though! Close to awful for me, only slightly better than Emerson Royal who was the worst top level right back in the prem in a long time. Would not touch this guy with a barge pole.
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All about opinions.

In the game in October at Molineux, Doku got precious little out of him and Grealish was blunted as well. He also set up their goal and almost scored himself when he cut through us up the middle of the pitch. Similarly, in the game at Molineux last season, he gave Neto the base to rip us apart down their right, and it was Semedo that was instrumental in getting forward to cross for their winner. I think he could do a trick because he can sit and play defensively, giving Savinho security and freedom, or attack in the final third along with Bernardo.

In the last season, Semedo's also worked his way back into the what is a highly talented Portuguese national side, something which would be hard to do if he'd been as terrible as you state.

In the winter window there will be precious few alternatives, so by my yardstick he'd be sensible stocking filler just now, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
Beaker said:
For me the answer is Akanji. He’s defensively sound, we’ve seen him step into midfield so he can play the inverted role, he’s not going to bomb up and down a la Walker, but when Gvardiol does it from the left he can split with the two centre backs and become a back three.

All the pieces fit for me, and there really isn’t a better alternative out there as far as I can see.
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I agree with this but, as two of our centre backs are injured often as not, he is going to be needed at centre back. I guess the question is whether we sign a specialist full back or another versatile centre back.
 
jamesha said:
I agree with this but, as two of our centre backs are injured often as not, he is going to be needed at centre back. I guess the question is whether we sign a specialist full back or another versatile centre back.
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It’s not only a question of our injured centre backs, however, but how much longer the others can last as well. Guardiola intimated last night that Akanji has now been playing through injury for over a month, so adding extra work on his shoulders would be folly. Even if there is an upswing in results between now and Christmas, I hope they don’t think everything is alright and that there is no need to add in the window. The effects of recent weeks will inevitably exact a toll later in the season, just like last year, so it would be deeply frustrating if we somehow reel Liverpool in but then allow them to escape because we’ve run out of puff.
 
Not sure if we have the option but maybe we could cut Kabore's loan at Benfica? I don't think he's played a lot there which obviously isn't a great sign, but the way our players are falling like flies we just need bodies. Considering we are down to 2 senior CB's right now and the only others are Walker pushing in (!) or Simpson-Pusey, and we are most likely going to need Rico to fill in at left back, we need someone.
 
shevtheblue said:
Kabore's loan at Benfica? I don't think he's played a lot there which obviously isn't a great sign, but the way our players are falling like flies we just need bodies
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There was talk Benfica wanted to send him back.
Not sure if they can actually do that?
 
Xhavenjoe said:
There was talk Benfica wanted to send him back.
Not sure if they can actually do that?
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if the clubs agree. Yes.

not sure he solves anything for us other than being a body, can't play CM or CB which we ask the RB to do in any system so far.
 
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shevtheblue said:
Not sure if we have the option but maybe we could cut Kabore's loan at Benfica? I don't think he's played a lot there which obviously isn't a great sign, but the way our players are falling like flies we just need bodies. Considering we are down to 2 senior CB's right now and the only others are Walker pushing in (!) or Simpson-Pusey, and we are most likely going to need Rico to fill in at left back, we need someone.
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explain how the fact that he isn't good enough for benfica would be good enough for PL? class RB should be a priority, ideally in january
 
striver said:
explain how the fact that he isn't good enough for benfica would be good enough for PL? class RB should be a priority, ideally in january
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I suppose he is our player and the only cost to us is the loss of a loan fee.
He wouldn't be a long term solution but may be an addition to our squad for the second half of the season.
The ideal situation is buying a top player in January
 
Xhavenjoe said:
I suppose he is our player and the only cost to us is the loss of a loan fee.
He wouldn't be a long term solution but may be an addition to our squad for the second half of the season.
The ideal situation is buying a top player in January
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bringing players for the sake of it won't help either. matter of fact, i'm sure pep wouldn't even pick him over walker. so we need a player who will instantly walk into the first 11
 
striver said:
explain how the fact that he isn't good enough for benfica would be good enough for PL? class RB should be a priority, ideally in january
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He's played a full season in PL? Maybe he doesn't suit Benfica, maybe he's been injured? Fuck knows. Even fucking Mangala got a couple games when we were desperate in the Centurions season :D
 
striver said:
bringing players for the sake of it won't help either. matter of fact, i'm sure pep wouldn't even pick him over walker. so we need a player who will instantly walk into the first 11
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He won't play over Walker or Rico, that's pretty clear. But with the way things are going with injuries and depending where we go in Jan, we could realistically be in a position that Walker is needed to cover CB, Rico is needed to cover LB and we have nobody at RB. I think it that situation he would probably use Simpson-Pusey as CB and leave Walker RB but the options are slim (insane to say considering we have 4 world class CBs on the books).
 
striver said:
bringing players for the sake of it won't help either. matter of fact, i'm sure pep wouldn't even pick him over walker. so we need a player who will instantly walk into the first 11
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I think its just that Benfica seem to want to cancel his contract and we are down numbers.
He was very promising a few years ago and was voted best young player in the African Nations.
Akanji currently injured and if anything were to happen to Walker or Lewis we would be in an even worse situation than we are now.
 
Gabriel said:
I’d still offer a two-year contract to Semedo at Wolves. Think he might have played with Bernardo (same agent), Ederson, and Dias at Benfica, which would mean he would understand the players immediately around him, and having played at Benfica and Barcelona, he would be able to settle into our system. Has played in most games of late for Wolves, so would likely be fit and League ready, which would be a bonus. He’s on big wages at Wolves, apparently, who are in a state of flux and might be changing manager, so they may accept a deal now before his contract expires in the summer. Not the ultimate fix, true, but perhaps a logical solution to a very immediate problem.
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This is a good suggestion. I have no idea why we never go for more short term options, or use bosmans or loans. Would rather see him on the teamsheet now than Lewis or Walker at rb.
 
shevtheblue said:
He won't play over Walker or Rico, that's pretty clear. But with the way things are going with injuries and depending where we go in Jan, we could realistically be in a position that Walker is needed to cover CB, Rico is needed to cover LB and we have nobody at RB. I think it that situation he would probably use Simpson-Pusey as CB and leave Walker RB but the options are slim (insane to say considering we have 4 world class CBs on the books).
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the thing is, we clearly need both a RB and a CB, but the latter can wait until the summer. our right side of defense is very poor and unreliable, and we’re being forced rn to play with four CBs. a proper RB has to be the priority in january
 
Tico Warrior said:
This is a good suggestion. I have no idea why we never go for more short term options, or use bosmans or loans. Would rather see him on the teamsheet now than Lewis or Walker at rb.
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I can't think of many 'forced' January buys that turned out either particularly successful or good value.
 
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