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onceabluealways said:
All the posters saying they don't want RVP ask yourself one question -

Would you be happy if he signed for the rags?

I believe tevez will def go and Dzeko will probably go.

My prefered choice would probably be Cavaini - i like what I've seen of him and he offers us something a bit different. But I wouldn't be happy to see RVP go to the rags.
Would you be happy with rvp AND cavani mate? Bobby has to be seen to not be forcing anyone out but I've been told by 2 very good people that he wants both and dzeko, Carlos and guidetti can all go! Imagine that strike force.... Cavani, balo,aguero and rvp!!! Jesus
 
NipHolmes said:
blue12 said:
NipHolmes said:
I said he'd go didn't I mate? Could see it miles off. You need Usmanov in asap. Spurs on the up with takeover, Chelsea strengthening and City and United at the top. Days of top 4 will be over if ambition isn't shown.
Have spurs been taken over ?

Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!
 
Blue anorak you have called out I was wrong but ignored Europe and the FA cup I talked about how many times he played for arsenal that chart clearly shows Prem appearances so I think you will find you are comparing apples and pears!!! Apology accepted ;-)

Neville kneville you would make a good politician your brilliant suggestion that an average is not the same if you take out the best year is pure Tony Blair spin and as valid as if I took out his most injured season to push his average up!

Glad the guys in my team look at the numbers a bit more carefully!
 
Robbo. said:
Some people need to give there head a wobble. Can not believe a few are not wanting RVP, the guys a great buy.

Its almost like children not getting there sweets at the shop! grow some fucking balls guys, you are embarrassing yourselves. You should trust what the club are doing especially Mancini, He's gave us the FA Cup and the League.
Fact
 
not my fault! said:
NipHolmes said:
blue12 said:
Have spurs been taken over ?

Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!
Wasnt that why we spent as much as quick? As we had time to cut the losses etc? I seem to remember some financial expert caning SSN saying it wasn't silly spending it was brilliantly planned so we had time to sort out losses etc!
 
onceabluealways said:
All the posters saying they don't want RVP ask yourself one question -

Would you be happy if he signed for the rags?

I believe tevez will def go and Dzeko will probably go.

My prefered choice would probably be Cavaini - i like what I've seen of him and he offers us something a bit different. But I wouldn't be happy to see RVP go to the rags.



yes RVP i can see becoming the next crocy santa cruz
 
not my fault! said:
NipHolmes said:
blue12 said:
Have spurs been taken over ?

Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!


FFPR will not hamper Spurs if they get taken over...the whole thing is a total farce. I very much doubt Anzi will ever break even and PSG are hardly being shy with the money they are spending. Then you have Malaga,Getafe and goodness knows who else to come after Spurs. I say spend spend spend and best of luck to all fans and clubs who were as fortunate us.
 
not my fault! said:
NipHolmes said:
blue12 said:
Have spurs been taken over ?

Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!

United will sell more than that imo. I think debt and players are required as they fear losing commercial revenues by slipping down the pecking order. A do or die moment.

Spot on about the UA investment but takeover is still there I am lead to believe. Idea is to build a stadium and all funds go to club?

Yeah your right about FFP. We, Anzhi, Malaga and PSG were the last of an era. FFP is bollocks really but nobody wants to be seen to challenge it. Chelsea will be the first. If they sign another 30+ mill players they take us over as spenders. They still have Lampard, Terry a RB and Essien to replace. Spending is a must for them wheras we have a young team and players to sell to buy if need be. The CL bailed them out big time.
 
jake28 said:
not my fault! said:
NipHolmes said:
Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!


FFPR will not hamper Spurs if they get taken over...the whole thing is a total farce. I very much doubt Anzi will ever break even and PSG are hardly being shy with the money they are spending. Then you have Malaga,Getafe and goodness knows who else to come after Spurs. I say spend spend spend and best of luck to all fans and clubs who were as fortunate us.
There is no takeover of spurs mate. Won't be either in the near future. Well run club that punch above their weight in the red knapp years! A top 7 club though and run very very well behind the scenes.
 
jake28 said:
not my fault! said:
NipHolmes said:
Closing in mate. Heard that's why Bale is staying. If the takeover happens then they become a real force. Imo they were a world class CB and Striker away from challenging to the end for title. Even if they lose Modric they will get a classy player in. Fair play to them as much as I don't like them. A league of City. United, Chelsea, Spurs and then Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle + others is a very, very good league. Defo takes us back to best league in world over La Liga.

The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!


FFPR will not hamper Spurs if they get taken over...the whole thing is a total farce. I very much doubt Anzi will ever break even and PSG are hardly being shy with the money they are spending. Then you have Malaga,Getafe and goodness knows who else to come after Spurs. I say spend spend spend and best of luck to all fans and clubs who were as fortunate us.

This.
 
If you ignore last season
RVP has averaged 9.42 league goals per season, 22 games per season.

And a goals per game ratio of 0.42.

Let's take a look at Kun's 5 seasons at AM.

175 league games 74 goals.

35 games a season. Ratio exactly the same 0.42.

So the problem is not that VP is a bad goal scorer he obviously isn't. He just doesn't play enough.

Add to that we already have our star striker who has yet to reach his prime it becomes obvious that we don't need Unreliant Robin.
 
Exactly, the owner knew we had only 3 windows to splash the cash, gain more sponsorship & start to show the books can be balanced & IMO it was done to perfection.
That's why you'll never see it done again, you hear PSG want to spend £200-300m this window but in reality they may spend £100m max & even less next time.
That's another reason RvP is a good purchase, he'd cost £20m & is the best forward the PL had last year. People say "resale value" but he's not a player we'd be buying to then sell on, he'd sign a 3-4 year contract & then probably retire or leave to go back home on a free. He's a player for now not the future.
 
richards30 said:
onceabluealways said:
All the posters saying they don't want RVP ask yourself one question -

Would you be happy if he signed for the rags?

I believe tevez will def go and Dzeko will probably go.

My prefered choice would probably be Cavaini - i like what I've seen of him and he offers us something a bit different. But I wouldn't be happy to see RVP go to the rags.
Would you be happy with rvp AND cavani mate? Bobby has to be seen to not be forcing anyone out but I've been told by 2 very good people that he wants both and dzeko, Carlos and guidetti can all go! Imagine that strike force.... Cavani, balo,aguero and rvp!!! Jesus


If we got cavani and RVP instead of Dzeko and Tevez - with one quality midfield signing we would have a chance at CL
 
NipHolmes said:
jake28 said:
not my fault! said:
The "takeover" turned out to be Under Armour investing in the club with a large sponsorship deal. There was talk of an Arab investment but being a Jewish club I'm sure hell would freeze over before that happened.
Irrespective of that, no club will ever be taken over & money injected like happened at City ever again. FFPR have quashed any of that happening, owners can't just invest £300m as they please. We got away with it as they knew the had 3 windows to make it happen.
For me it doesn't matter if Chelsea, Spuds, Arsenal or any team get taken over or investment put into the club as they will never spend like we did. Look at the rags, floating to raise £65m to pay off debt not buy players!


FFPR will not hamper Spurs if they get taken over...the whole thing is a total farce. I very much doubt Anzi will ever break even and PSG are hardly being shy with the money they are spending. Then you have Malaga,Getafe and goodness knows who else to come after Spurs. I say spend spend spend and best of luck to all fans and clubs who were as fortunate us.

This.

My main point was Spurs will not be getting taken over regardless of what anyone has heard.
 
If you look how Dave played for spain in the euro`s he was mostly out wide or running around as a striker come high up the field midfielder. I can see him playing in this role for City thus negating the need for an out and out winger. This would then enable RVP to play up front, with Aguero just behind and 3 other supporting midfielders. Backing this up would be Yaya. People who say they dont want RVP just need to look at his assists aswell as his goals. A master poacher as well as passer and scorer of the spectacular he would slot perfectly in Bobbys idea of a team playing at home. I also have a feeling someone like sneijder is coming.

..............HART............

MR/ZAB...VK....JL.....GC

............YAYA.............

Dave.......WS/Another.........SN
........SA.......
..............RVP.............

Away from home we could slide NDJ in alonside Yaya or Barry and drop Nasri. I know it doesn`t look like theres a lot of width but if we push GC and MR up on either side we wont need out and out wingers.

The team above would win the league and we`d have a good go at the Chumps league.
 
onceabluealways said:
richards30 said:
onceabluealways said:
All the posters saying they don't want RVP ask yourself one question -

Would you be happy if he signed for the rags?

I believe tevez will def go and Dzeko will probably go.

My prefered choice would probably be Cavaini - i like what I've seen of him and he offers us something a bit different. But I wouldn't be happy to see RVP go to the rags.
Would you be happy with rvp AND cavani mate? Bobby has to be seen to not be forcing anyone out but I've been told by 2 very good people that he wants both and dzeko, Carlos and guidetti can all go! Imagine that strike force.... Cavani, balo,aguero and rvp!!! Jesus


If we got cavani and RVP instead of Dzeko and Tevez - with one quality midfield signing we would have a chance at CL
It's what bobby wants from what I've been told mate. He loves rvp and cavani and if the numbers permit will take both!
 
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