robin van persie (continued)

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carlos92 said:
SPIDERBOY said:
dont know if this has been posted,apologies if it has.....as much as i like RVP...£30 mil,cant be right...



Steve Stammers column: Why van Persie risks losing everything by playing hardball with Arsenal and Arsene Wenger

Some time in the next two weeks, Robin van Persie will sit down with Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger to talk about his future.

He would do well to listen to the Frenchman who will make it abundantly clear that if van Persie decides on pastures new, then the club in his sights had better be prepared to pay top dollar. Around £30 million to be precise.

And if no such offer is forthcoming, then van Persie will go into the last year of his contract as an Arsenal player and the prospect of a free transfer at the end of it.

False economy? Maybe. But van Persie will be 30 in August next year and that £250,000 wage offer currently banded about may have shrunk a little. As soon as the age starts with a "3", then the twitches start.

Van Persie's stock was never higher than in May when he finished as Footballer of the Year, with 30 goals in the Premier League and an injury-free nine months under belt.

But he suffered in the Euros along with the rest of the ego-driven Dutch squad who clearly ignored the fact that there is no "i" in team. Van Persie just did not look the same player although it has to be said he was not helped by the evident chaos around him.

Now come the crunch talks with Wenger - and we will find out if there is a gambling side to van Persie's nature.

One certainty is that Wenger has a stubborn streak. For all his professorial demeanour, Wenger can be as hard as the next man. He has shown he can be ruthless in the past when he has decided the time was up for players regarded as iconic.

The names of Ian Wright, Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Robert Pires come to mind.

So van Persie needs to be aware that if he going to play hardball, Wenger will return it with interest. If there is no £30 million on the table, van Persie will stay and be allowed to take his chances on a free transfer with his 30th birthday a matter of weeks away.

Wenger, of course, wants him to stay. Van Persie is quality. And if the Dutchman opts to see out his contract, then there will be time to bed in new signings Lukas Podolski and Olvier Giroud while they adapt to English football.

Wenger will make his case clear. Arsenal will not suffer from this scenario - so Robin, it is over to you.

The Arse are not in the strongest bargaining position, that is why the talks RvP is meant to be having with their board.

surely its in their best interest,to take around £15 ish now,than let him walk for nowt next year..
 
Arsenal simply will not allow Van Persie to run down his contract because they would forfiet a considerable sum of money in the process. I think that Arsenal anticipating and were hoping for a bidding war to begin as soon as his availability became public knowledge thus reducing his price significantly but for whatever reason that has not been forthcoming.

I was speaking to a person who likes football but is impartial and doesn't support any team and he is of the opinion that if we sign him then it could become the same situation as Fernando Torres when he moved from Liverpool to Chelsea. It is an interesting viewpoint and it has given me something to consider really but it is merely a case of time will tell if he signs for us.

He is a proven goalscorer but whether he will suit our style of play is questionable. Arsenal became reliant on Van Persie to lead them to a Champions League place but if he comes here then the responsibility would be shared and it would be interesting to see how he reacts to that.
 
SPIDERBOY said:
carlos92 said:
SPIDERBOY said:
dont know if this has been posted,apologies if it has.....as much as i like RVP...£30 mil,cant be right...



Steve Stammers column: Why van Persie risks losing everything by playing hardball with Arsenal and Arsene Wenger

Some time in the next two weeks, Robin van Persie will sit down with Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger to talk about his future.

He would do well to listen to the Frenchman who will make it abundantly clear that if van Persie decides on pastures new, then the club in his sights had better be prepared to pay top dollar. Around £30 million to be precise.

And if no such offer is forthcoming, then van Persie will go into the last year of his contract as an Arsenal player and the prospect of a free transfer at the end of it.

False economy? Maybe. But van Persie will be 30 in August next year and that £250,000 wage offer currently banded about may have shrunk a little. As soon as the age starts with a "3", then the twitches start.

Van Persie's stock was never higher than in May when he finished as Footballer of the Year, with 30 goals in the Premier League and an injury-free nine months under belt.

But he suffered in the Euros along with the rest of the ego-driven Dutch squad who clearly ignored the fact that there is no "i" in team. Van Persie just did not look the same player although it has to be said he was not helped by the evident chaos around him.

Now come the crunch talks with Wenger - and we will find out if there is a gambling side to van Persie's nature.

One certainty is that Wenger has a stubborn streak. For all his professorial demeanour, Wenger can be as hard as the next man. He has shown he can be ruthless in the past when he has decided the time was up for players regarded as iconic.

The names of Ian Wright, Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira and Robert Pires come to mind.

So van Persie needs to be aware that if he going to play hardball, Wenger will return it with interest. If there is no £30 million on the table, van Persie will stay and be allowed to take his chances on a free transfer with his 30th birthday a matter of weeks away.

Wenger, of course, wants him to stay. Van Persie is quality. And if the Dutchman opts to see out his contract, then there will be time to bed in new signings Lukas Podolski and Olvier Giroud while they adapt to English football.

Wenger will make his case clear. Arsenal will not suffer from this scenario - so Robin, it is over to you.

The Arse are not in the strongest bargaining position, that is why the talks RvP is meant to be having with their board.

surely its in their best interest,to take around £15 ish now,than let him walk for nowt next year..

Yep that is the case. The best they can hope for is the price we paid for Nasri last season.
 
If you split the difference between the two figures around the 22.5m mark is about the same price we are asking for Tevez, is this coincidence? :-)
 
Rammyblues said:
If you split the difference between the two figures around the 22.5m mark is about the same price we are asking for Tevez, is this coincidence? :-)

It bears no positive impact on the FFP regulations though. It would be beneficial for us to request a higher fee for Carlos if we are to be perceived as having a willingness to comply with the new rules imposed by UEFA.
 
C_T_I_D said:
Rammyblues said:
If you split the difference between the two figures around the 22.5m mark is about the same price we are asking for Tevez, is this coincidence? :-)

It bears no positive impact on the FFP regulations though. It would be beneficial for us to request a higher fee for Carlos if we are to be perceived as having a willingness to comply with the new rules imposed by UEFA.

seen a few rumours,that ac are now looking at mattia destro,possibly rule them out for tevez or dzeko if true..
 
carlos92 said:
SPIDERBOY said:
carlos92 said:
The Arse are not in the strongest bargaining position, that is why the talks RvP is meant to be having with their board.

surely its in their best interest,to take around £15 ish now,than let him walk for nowt next year..

Yep that is the case. The best they can hope for is the price we paid for Nasri last season.

they'd make more with him guaranteeing CL football than selling him and losing out to Spurs and Chelsea and failing to qualify, which would be almost inevitable the way Chelsea are going.
 
JoeMercer'sWay said:
carlos92 said:
SPIDERBOY said:
surely its in their best interest,to take around £15 ish now,than let him walk for nowt next year..

Yep that is the case. The best they can hope for is the price we paid for Nasri last season.

they'd make more with him guaranteeing CL football than selling him and losing out to Spurs and Chelsea and failing to qualify, which would be almost inevitable the way Chelsea are going.

They will have to use the cash to do that to buy the players Arse need. They are not short, but it is Arsene Wenger's pride that is making them stand still. They have already bought another left footed striker in Podolski, so they must of had an inclining that RvP will not be extending his contract.
 
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