Robinho purchase was madness

I couldn't disagree more, when you have a chance to sign one of the worlds best players, you MUST take it. Yes a team needs a solid backbone but, there are at least 12 such players in each position in Europe(and England)that can fill those roles. The worlds best players are simply are about 1 player per position that can rightly be called that, and they don't come up on the market often so when they are around you must get them if you have the chance. On top of that where would we be without the 12 goals that he has scored for us so far this season, I will tell you, without the goals directly we would be bottom of the table and out of the UEFA cup along with the LC and FA Cup(which of course he did not play in either).
 
We're just going to have to be patient. Robinho is a star but the team is crap. One player doesn't make a team. We have to replace the crap with better players to improve the team and then we will see more of Robinho.

Benjani
Vassell
Hamann
Ball
Garrido
Fernandes
Evans

These players have played a lot this season and they aren't good enough. With so many weak links we are going nowhere. But we are lucky to have the money to sort it out. I really think by the start of next season we will have a very good squad.

We have some of the players a squad needs to compete at the top. Some are out of form/injured at the moment but I think they have a role to play in the squad if not the first team.

Hart
Dunne
Richards
Kompany
Zabaleta
SWP
Petrov
Robinho
Ireland
Bojinov
Bridge

After those there are the youngsters who should be kept and given a chance: Johnson, Sturridge, Jo (I think he could come good).

We need cover in goal. We need a new centre back. We need a new defensive midfielder/box to box player. And we desperately need at least one centre forward. They are the priority positions. After that we need cover. There is a long way to go.
 
kramer said:
mammutly said:
This is the type of opinion that truly and utterly defines a losing mentality.

Give a manager like Sven a palyer like Robinho and we'd be on our way to becoming fucking world beaters. Give him to Hughes and he's a problem/obstacle.

I'm sorry, But Robinho is far more than a statement. He's the future. And for once, at last! At long fucking last, lets know that that is where we are going! Robinho, a mistake? No way! Mark Hughes is the mistake.


This is true well said

How is hughes an obstacle to rob?
 
kinkladze96 said:
kramer said:
This is true well said

How is hughes an obstacle to rob?
because robinho has the power over him he runs training he does what he wants and theres fuck all hughes can do a bout it coz hes a shit manager get mourinho in BUT ide fukin love for martin oneil to come city
 
Robinho is Class.

How can you say to buy him was madness. He's hit 12 goals this year. How many has Berbamiss or Keane scored?

We'd be down & out without him.

He seems to beleive in the City "project" he appears to love US the fans, he seems happy at City. He's involved with new signings. He's a very important figure at the club.

Its a shame some of his teammates DONT share his enthusiasm for the club (finger points to Richards!!!)
 
Here's another way of puuting it, Robinho madness

Ok, I love him, he's great, we'd be fucked now without him, hope he stays for 10 years and becomes a legend etc.. etc..

BUT

If we had 32 mill to spend in hindsight would you have purchased Robbie or say 4 or 5 other players in our weak areas?

and if so...

Would we be in a stronger situation?


thoughts?
 
Re: Here's another way of puuting it, Robinho madness

allyboy said:
Ok, I love him, he's great, we'd be fucked now without him, hope he stays for 10 years and becomes a legend etc.. etc..

BUT

If we had 32 mill to spend in hindsight would you have purchased Robbie or say 4 or 5 other players in our weak areas?

and if so...

Would we be in a stronger situation?


thoughts?


couldnt this be added to the last robbie thread you started...merged topics
 
1 Liverpool 20 6 4 0 16 6 7 2 1 19 7 22 45
2 Chelsea 20 4 4 2 17 6 8 2 0 23 3 31 42
3 Man Utd 18 7 1 0 20 4 4 4 2 9 6 19 38
4 Aston Villa 20 4 5 1 16 11 7 0 3 17 11 11 38
5 Arsenal 20 6 2 2 17 11 4 3 3 16 12 10 35
6 Everton 20 2 4 4 12 15 7 1 2 15 10 2 32
7 Wigan 19 5 2 3 11 10 3 2 4 13 11 3 28
8 Hull 20 3 2 5 10 20 4 4 2 18 17 -9 27
9 Fulham 19 6 3 1 16 8 0 5 4 2 6 4 26
10 West Ham 20 4 1 5 13 15 3 3 4 11 13 -4 25
11 Bolton 20 3 2 5 8 11 4 0 6 14 17 -6 23
12 Portsmouth 20 4 2 4 14 17 2 3 5 7 16 -12 23
13 Man City 20 5 0 5 24 11 1 4 5 14 19 8 22
14 Newcastle 20 4 3 3 16 17 1 4 5 10 15 -6 22
15 Sunderland 20 3 2 5 11 13 3 2 5 10 16 -8 22
16 Tottenham 20 3 3 4 7 7 2 2 6 13 18 -5 20
17 Middlesbrough 20 3 3 4 9 14 2 2 6 8 15 -12 20
18 Stoke 20 5 2 3 12 11 0 3 7 6 22 -15 20
19 Blackburn 20 2 3 5 10 17 2 3 5 12 19 -14 18
20 West Brom 20 4 2 4 13 16 1 1 8 3 19 -19 18



Without his goals we would be in deeper shit than this lol
 
kinkladze96 said:
kramer said:
This is true well said

How is hughes an obstacle to rob?

Because Hughes needs to control and dominate his squad. He did that at Blackburn because all the players were at or around his level. At City, there are players who are better than he ever was . In the case of Robinho, there is a player who is light years ahead of what he ever was.

Hughes as a player always resented skillful footballers and made his own reputation by hard work and a physical approach to the game. He values hard work over talent, always has. That's why he is an obstacle to Robinho.
 
Re: Here's another way of puuting it, Robinho madness

shadygiz said:
allyboy said:
Ok, I love him, he's great, we'd be fucked now without him, hope he stays for 10 years and becomes a legend etc.. etc..

BUT

If we had 32 mill to spend in hindsight would you have purchased Robbie or
and if so...

Would we be in a stronger situation?


thoughts?




couldnt this be added to the last robbie thread you started...merged topics

Last day of the transfer window I don't think there was anyway to bring in 4 or 5 players in less than 24hrs, we did amazingly well to get the one.
 
Thank god we got Robinho. Who else would have played left side when Petrov got injured? We would be fucked without him.
 
allyboy said:
I firmly believe Robinho was our most stupid, rushed and un-thoughtout signing.

He was purchased as a "show of our spending power" by ADUG. He was not purchased with any tactical or personal thought whatsoever.

Yes he's a great player, been brilliant 90% of time but the ramifications of his signing now typify the problems we have.

we were running before we could walk with Robbie.

I'll bet a fair wager that his situation causes division in the dressing room and puts hughes in many an awkward spot. His wages, his power when it comes to transfers/purchases and his relationship with "the brazilians".

I love City, and like Robinho. I want him to stay, but look where we are with him.

He may be a wizard on the field as was Kinky.
We did fuck all then as well.

Not a thread to sell him, just a hasty, buy for the wrong reason purchase for me.
He will take careful, skillfull managing to intergrate him and others at City. Big big task for Mr Hughes.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa

He's scored 11 goals for fucks sake.

I don't know how to even begin witth this drivel.
 
masterwig said:
We're just going to have to be patient. Robinho is a star but the team is crap. One player doesn't make a team. We have to replace the crap with better players to improve the team and then we will see more of Robinho.

Benjani
Vassell
Hamann
Ball
Garrido
Fernandes
Evans

These players have played a lot this season and they aren't good enough. With so many weak links we are going nowhere. But we are lucky to have the money to sort it out. I really think by the start of next season we will have a very good squad.

We have some of the players a squad needs to compete at the top. Some are out of form/injured at the moment but I think they have a role to play in the squad if not the first team.

Hart
Dunne
Richards
Kompany
Zabaleta
SWP
Petrov
Robinho
Ireland
Bojinov
Bridge

After those there are the youngsters who should be kept and given a chance: Johnson, Sturridge, Jo (I think he could come good).

We need cover in goal. We need a new centre back. We need a new defensive midfielder/box to box player. And we desperately need at least one centre forward. They are the priority positions. After that we need cover. There is a long way to go.

good post, agree with most.
wheres the lad caicedo??
after gettin a fierce slaggin on here i think hes done well recently and def one4 d future however if u put him in either category fair enough like........
 
mammutly said:
This is the type of opinion that truly and utterly defines a losing mentality.

Give a manager like Sven a palyer like Robinho and we'd be on our way to becoming fucking world beaters. Give him to Hughes and he's a problem/obstacle.

I'm sorry, But Robinho is far more than a statement. He's the future. And for once, at last! At long fucking last, lets know that that is where we are going! Robinho, a mistake? No way! Mark Hughes is the mistake.

now u said it mate. cant disagree with a word of that...
 
I think there are a lot of excellent posts on both sides of this argument.

It would be very difficult for any of us to truly understand everything that is going on, and has gone on within the club, let alone their complex interactions. Even an insider might be hard-pressed to quickly put all the pieces together when it comes to a team that is dramatically inconsistent and underperforming - like for instance our manager! This is a very complex issue, and should not be over-simplified.

Obviously we don't have a cohesive consistent winning team spirit, but consider what effects the takeover may have had on individual players, even before you start looking at the possible interactions between team members, AND then the overlay of ideas Hughes and his staff seek to impose on top of this, with all the press and media speculation compounding things.

At least we know we have the backing and resources from overseas which should ultimately underwrite whatever we need to do in our long-term future to make the necessary changes; whenever they may come.

Supporting City over all these years has never been boring, and City it would seem, are still very much City, even though we now have the unique distinction of wearing our new mantle.
 
are you stupid??!!! we have one of the worlds best players playing for us and you are complaining!! the guy hasnt even played every game and has scored 11 goals getting an unbelievable amount of points for us almost single handedly!! without him we'd be below west brom! if anyone had the choice of having robinho on the last day of the transfer window or waiting to get him (by the way when he would have probably gone to chelsea in the end) then you would have to be stupid to not take him!! its only us that could complain about having one of the worlds best players at our club!!
 
Robbie is just the quality of layer we need more of, professional and always looking to be better. Its the toss that we have got to play with him thats the problem, players should play and the manager should manage.

Totally disagree with you.
 

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