Rock Evolution – The History of Rock & Roll - 1985 - (page 203)

[Coatigan]

So what is actually happening here then? As in, how will it work.

One poster picks 5 songs from up to 5 album for a year they bagsied.

We discuss that year over the two weeks. Do others contribute song suggestions from the same year, if so how many? Then onto the next year/poster chronologically.

Have I got that right?

 

[BimboBob]

So what is actually happening here then? As in, how will it work.

One poster picks 5 songs from up to 5 album for a year they bagsied.

We discuss that year over the two weeks. Do others contribute song suggestions from the same year, if so how many? Then onto the next year/poster chronologically.

Have I got that right?

5 songs and 5 albums! From the year. Then we all pile in.

 

[Saddleworth2]

@Bill Walker has an incredible year for music. Look forward to that write up.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Rob, my pref is 1971 (1), 1985 (2), 1974 (3).

 

[Coatigan]

5 songs and 5 albums! From the year. Then we all pile in.

5 full albums?

 

[threespires]

It was awful anyway.

I can well imagine. One of the appealing things about them is the whole, 'how it started, how it ended up' journey.

 

[Saddleworth2]

5 full albums?

The focus is on the year and why its so special. You can showcase five albums from that year and five tracks (they don't need to be from the albums you showcase). The point is to illustrate through your choices why your year stands out. It could be for the quality of albums, the rise of a mega artist at the beginning of their career, the development of a new genre, the influence of music on the wider world.....

You can write as much or as little about your albums as you deem appropriate. No hard and fast rules mate. Lets just see what works and how it develops.

 

[mancity111]

Bloody hell, there's no need to nurture his sense of grievance any further! Anyway he'll be able to cover the So Cal punk scene in the discussion as I'll be focusing my efforts on the bigger issues of the day like Barry Manilow's waning fortunes and the fact it was a bit of a fallow year for David Essex.

This is why I would have preferred a transatlantic ( que Dream Theater ) approach to the year of 1980 with the said two moon orators covering all bases TS.

Who other than you would focus on Alan Parsons for example let alone mention him.

I am confident that Fog would not have included DE and BM in his soliloquy to reflect on your exquisite piece on the 4th anniversary of the release of Walk on City Lights.

Now as for Bob Seeger's Against the Wind well I reckon Fog would not have been able to contain himself on that score.

X and the Cramps aside this is the reason he really wanted 1980.

 

[Coatigan]

The focus is on the year and why its so special. You can showcase five albums from that year and five tracks (they don't need to be from the albums you showcase). The point is to illustrate through your choices why your year stands out. It could be for the quality of albums, the rise of a mega artist at the beginning of their career, the development of a new genre, the influence of music on the wider world.....

You can write as much or as little about your albums as you deem appropriate. No hard and fast rules mate. Lets just see what works and how it develops.

I see. Is the 'listening' component then more 'voluntary', i.e rather than expecting people to listen to 5 albums, they are part of a discussion and if people can find the time they do if not, they read?

 

[threespires]

I see. Is the 'listening' component then more 'voluntary', i.e rather than expecting people to listen to 5 albums, they are part of a discussion and if people can find the time they do if not, they read?

I'll leave Sadds to provide an official answer, at a personal level I'm hoping when people cite their albums they might offer insights like "listen to track 4 which was the first use of the glokenspiel in a dub context" or whatever the salient point might be, so that people can get a sense of why they nominated things. I suspect most people won't be listening to and commenting on all 5 albums, just chipping in with points of interest etc.

 

[Out on blue 6]

I'll leave Sadds to provide an official answer, at a personal level I'm hoping when people cite their albums they might offer insights like "listen to track 4 which was the first use of the glokenspiel in a dub context" or whatever the salient point might be, so that people can get a sense of why they nominated things. I suspect most people won't be listening to and commenting on all 5 albums, just chipping in with points of interest etc.

Glockenspiel in a dub context surely is 91 and The Orbs Adventures from The Ultraworld. I might take that year as well

 

[RobMCFC]

So what is actually happening here then? As in, how will it work.

One poster picks 5 songs from up to 5 album for a year they bagsied.

We discuss that year over the two weeks. Do others contribute song suggestions from the same year, if so how many? Then onto the next year/poster chronologically.

Have I got that right?

I think that Saddleworth2 and threespires have provided most of the answers you need.

We haven't decided on a maximum number of tracks that people should be allowed to nominate per year so let's have an open discussion here. That's what this week is for - sorting out the ground rules.

I was thinking that we need to be looking at a playlist length of 20-30 tracks per year, so I'd suggest everybody who is interested nominates one to begin with and we'll see how many we've got near the end of the first week of the two-week cycle. After that we can either fill our boots or hold back as appropriate.

Of course if 60 people all pile in with a song each that's great, we'll have a big playlist.

Finally, when you are joining in the discussions you can mention as many different songs/albums from the year as you like, but just make it clear what you want to be added to the playlist.

	60s	70s	80s	90s	00s	10s	20s
19x0	mrbelfry (2)		threespires
19x1		Saddleworth2 (1)	OB1 (2)
19x2		Mancitydoogle					BimboBob (2)
19x3		OB1 (4)	southamptonblue
19x4		Saddleworth2 (3)		FogBlueInSanFran
19x5	RobMCFC (2)	OB1 (1)	Saddleworth2 (2)
19x6	BimboBob (2)	Mancitydoogle		BlueHammer85
19x7	Bill Walker (1)	Protein Junkie	RobMCFC (1)	mrbelfry (1)
19x8	Bill Walker (2)
19x9	OB1 (3)	BimboBob (1)	Out on Blue 6

 

[Coatigan]

I think that Saddleworth2 and threespires have provided most of the answers you need.

We haven't decided on a maximum number of tracks that people should be allowed to nominate per year so let's have an open discussion here. That's what this week is for - sorting out the ground rules.

I was thinking that we need to be looking at a playlist length of 20-30 tracks per year, so I'd suggest everybody who is interested nominates one to begin with and we'll see how many we've got near the end of the first week of the two-week cycle. After that we can either fill our boots or hold back as appropriate.

Of course if 60 people all pile in with a song each that's great, we'll have a big playlist.

Finally, when you are joining in the discussions you can mention as many different songs/albums from the year as you like, but just make it clear what you want to be added to the playlist.

	60s	70s	80s	90s	00s	10s	20s
19x0	mrbelfry (2)		threespires
19x1		Saddleworth2 (1)	OB1 (2)
19x2		Mancitydoogle					BimboBob (2)
19x3		OB1 (4)	southamptonblue
19x4		Saddleworth2 (3)		FogBlueInSanFran
19x5	RobMCFC (2)	OB1 (1)	Saddleworth2 (2)
19x6	BimboBob (2)	Mancitydoogle		BlueHammer85
19x7	Bill Walker (1)	Protein Junkie	RobMCFC (1)	mrbelfry (1)
19x8	Bill Walker (2)
19x9	OB1 (3)	BimboBob (1)	Out on Blue 6

Thanks. All makes sense.

Now what do the numbers in the table mean? ;)

 

[threespires]

Glockenspiel in a dub context surely is 91 and The Orbs Adventures from The Ultraworld. I might take that year as well

Haha, wouldn't surprise me, it's got everything else going on in it. Pretty sure Alex Paterson is technically a pensioner now, where tf does the time go?

 

[RobMCFC]

Thanks. All makes sense.

Now what do the numbers in the table mean? ;)

They are priority order for those who have asked for more than one year.

Anybody with a (1) has secured that year. Not sure about Mancitydoogle who didn't specify a priority.

But what that means is that if you see somebody with any number other than a (1), you could quite reasonably ask to replace them if you haven't already selected a year.

Similarly I'd argue that if you only have one pick, you could quite reasonably ask to replace somebody with a (3) etc.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan @Saddleworth2 & @threespires

 

[Saddleworth2]

I see. Is the 'listening' component then more 'voluntary', i.e rather than expecting people to listen to 5 albums, they are part of a discussion and if people can find the time they do if not, they read?

Exactly. I suspect some of the albums showcased will be pretty well known.

 

[threespires]

This is why I would have preferred a transatlantic ( que Dream Theater ) approach to the year of 1980 with the said two moon orators covering all bases TS.

Who other than you would focus on Alan Parsons for example let alone mention him.

I am confident that Fog would not have included DE and BM in his soliloquy to reflect on your exquisite piece on the 4th anniversary of the release of Walk on City Lights.

Now as for Bob Seeger's Against the Wind well I reckon Fog would not have been able to contain himself on that score.

X and the Cramps aside this is the reason he really wanted 1980.

You may mock, but a couple of weeks ago elder son and I were having a discussion about whether we'd go to see BEAT if they decided to tour over here (our view was given the three albums they'd be focusing on, yes) - anyway the conversation broadened and we did indeed end up at The Alan Parsons Project!

 

[mancity111]

You may mock, but a couple of weeks ago elder son and I were having a discussion about whether we'd go to see BEAT if they decided to tour over here (our view was given the three albums they'd be focusing on, yes) - anyway the conversation broadened and we did indeed end up at The Alan Parsons Project!

I am best when I mock myself TS.

I was listening to Turn of A Friendly Card ( Album ) just the other day which I would place in my top 10 albums released in 1980.

AP is a real talent of that I am in no doubt and never have since I first listened I Robot 47 years to the day.

Looking forward to your post TS.

 

[GoatersLeftShin]

I'm happy to have a crack at 1970 Rob if no one else fancies it. Give me some notice in case work flares up but should be able to work with pretty much any year from 1966 onwards.

Should be a fascinating thread - thanks for running these, they always throw up plenty of interesting music and thoughts!

 

[BlueHammer85]

I like the thought of 1 year per week, if no one has it nominated then we just discuss it anyway and chuck in some songs etc