Rock Evolution – The History of Rock & Roll - 1986 - (page 212)

threespires said:
I was probably older than I should have been by the time I realised just how good and important The Kinks were.
If you are going to be one hit wonders then there are worse ways to do it than with Have I The Right - as we're doing the history thing I also think that makes Honey Lantree the first female drummer to have a number 1 (at least in the UK).
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You really got me was in my original ten. Its so good its on the playlist twice!
 
Oh to be alive and young in this year/era. I was a decade away from being born. I wish I could go back to the 60s for a week and go n see The Beatles,Kinks,Stones,Yardbirds,the who,Animals etc. Must of been a privilege to be able to witness these legends at work.
 
RobMCFC said:
Notes on the 1964 playlist:-

- What an amazing set of songs. Instrumental pieces are now coming to the fore in some of these songs.

- Bob Dylan, The Beach Boys and The Beatles still rule.

- Having recently said that there's no music that I listen to for the vocals alone, I think that The Beach Boys come close to disproving this. OK, it's about the arrangements too but the vocals on the chorus of "I Get Around" are nothing short of astonishing.

- "You Really Got Me", with its razor blade-slashed amp, seems a significant jump forward in the rock guitar sound. In this context, "Gloria" by Them, which I'd never thought of as a hugely influential song, has the same feel about it with that buzzing guitar.

- The Animals version of "House of The Rising Son" is a superb song. That organ piece is fantastic and memorable. An interview with Eric Burdon revealed that he first heard the song in a club in Newcastle, England, where it was sung by the Northumbrian folk singer Johnny Handle. This feels like a callback to my piece about the collection of folk songs in our Country and Folk primer.

- Here is me admitting for at least the third time that I was wrong (about not discussing things until the year they happened) because listening to "She's Not There" by The Zombies, it feels like they were laying down a sound that would be hugely influential to The Doors three years later.
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The middle sixties were an amazing period, so many innovations and some great songs.
 
Honestly, what a playlist. Bloody brilliant, the songs from my childhood that are for ever embedded in my memory banks. Love Gloria by Them (Patti Smiths version is also very good). I'm surprised 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie Small didn't make it (is it too late @threespires ?). I remember seven year old me thinking she was very pretty. They are all crackers on this list and I expect 65 will be every bit as good.
 
Also @threespires "Louie Louie" was released in 1963 and, unsurprisingly, was on the 1963 playlist.

Not your fault because I know what it's like trying to maintain a playlist when people are nominating stuff think and fast.

Everybody, please can you do just a little research before nominating stuff. They may all be great songs but if they are not from the year we are covering then the whole things is pointless. Especially if we've already had the song on a previous playlist.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Honestly, what a playlist. Bloody brilliant, the songs from my childhood that are for ever embedded in my memory banks. Love Gloria by Them (Patti Smiths version is also very good). I'm surprised 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie Small didn't make it (is it too late @threespires ?). I remember seven year old me thinking she was very pretty. They are all crackers on this list and I expect 65 will be every bit as good.
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The initial 10 for 1965 is indeed very good. And I made a surprising (to me) discovery about a connection between two of the songs on the list which makes for a good narrative.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Honestly, what a playlist. Bloody brilliant, the songs from my childhood that are for ever embedded in my memory banks. Love Gloria by Them (Patti Smiths version is also very good). I'm surprised 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie Small didn't make it (is it too late @threespires ?). I remember seven year old me thinking she was very pretty. They are all crackers on this list and I expect 65 will be every bit as good.
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Well given that due to my incompetence we are removing 2 songs I would think we can fit it in. Also it must be one of the first Ska songs to go properly mainstream.
 
RobMCFC said:
Also @threespires "Louie Louie" was released in 1963 and, unsurprisingly, was on the 1963 playlist.

Not your fault because I know what it's like trying to maintain a playlist when people are nominating stuff think and fast.

Everybody, please can you do just a little research before nominating stuff. They may all be great songs but if they are not from the year we are covering then the whole things is pointless. Especially if we've already had the song on a previous playlist.
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Arrhgh more haste less speed on my part. Double doh!.
 
What is sadly but at the same wonderfully the case that it is around 55 years give or take a year or three since I first heard all these 39 songs (the time of posting) on the playlist and hearing them again it only seems like yesterday that I was deciding if I wanted to hear them again if it were to pass which thankfully I decided in the affirmative.

What is time anyway, its true that as we get older we struggle to encode most things but not music , the emotion and situations it connects to and brings to us is life long even as my brain starts to breakdown which it is now.

Music is therapy and inspiring and life giving to those with dementia for example and those without and boy don't I know it , I play it to my frail and dementia ridden mother with the kid's when they come around and 2nd wife in toe and she hums and sings along like it was 55 years back in time all over again and 1964 had a stack of them.

I can still remember what I was dong when I first heard Hello Goodbye in January 1968 and its one of my least favorite Beatles song but I digress again.

Its yesterday once more today but lets not rush to 1973 just yet.

The playlist would only get better if more time was allowed for sure but it is a pretty good one at that as we near 1965.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Honestly, what a playlist. Bloody brilliant, the songs from my childhood that are for ever embedded in my memory banks. Love Gloria by Them (Patti Smiths version is also very good). I'm surprised 'My Boy Lollipop' by Millie Small didn't make it (is it too late @threespires ?). I remember seven year old me thinking she was very pretty. They are all crackers on this list and I expect 65 will be every bit as good.
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Does some justice to your introduction S2 , a masterpiece in itself.
 
mancity111 said:
What is sadly but at the same wonderfully the case that it is around 55 years give or take a year or three since I first heard all these 39 songs (the time of posting) on the playlist and hearing them again it only seems like yesterday that I was deciding if I wanted to hear them again if it were to pass which thankfully I decided in the affirmative.

What is time anyway, its true that as we get older we struggle to encode most things but not music , the emotion and situations it connects to and brings to us is life long even as my brain starts to breakdown which it is now.

Music is therapy and inspiring and life giving to those with dementia for example and those without and boy don't I know it , I play it to my frail and dementia ridden mother with the kid's when they come around and 2nd wife in toe and she hums and sings along like it was 55 years back in time all over again and 1964 had a stack of them.

I can still remember what I was dong when I first heard Hello Goodbye in January 1968 and its one of my least favorite Beatles song but I digress again.

Its yesterday once more today but lets not rush to 1973 just yet.

The playlist would only get better if more time was allowed for sure but it is a pretty good one at that as we near 1965.
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mancity111 said:
What is sadly but at the same wonderfully the case that it is around 55 years give or take a year or three since I first heard all these 39 songs (the time of posting) on the playlist and hearing them again it only seems like yesterday that I was deciding if I wanted to hear them again if it were to pass which thankfully I decided in the affirmative.

What is time anyway, its true that as we get older we struggle to encode most things but not music , the emotion and situations it connects to and brings to us is life long even as my brain starts to breakdown which it is now.

Music is therapy and inspiring and life giving to those with dementia for example and those without and boy don't I know it , I play it to my frail and dementia ridden mother with the kid's when they come around and 2nd wife in toe and she hums and sings along like it was 55 years back in time all over again and 1964 had a stack of them.

I can still remember what I was dong when I first heard Hello Goodbye in January 1968 and its one of my least favorite Beatles song but I digress again.

Its yesterday once more today but lets not rush to 1973 just yet.

The playlist would only get better if more time was allowed for sure but it is a pretty good one at that as we near 1965.
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I thought I would enjoy the 70s more but listening to these songs brought back so many childhood memories that were very deep back in the old database. It is incredible that music can transport you. It’s the best type of Time Machine.

I too used to play music (Jack Jones mainly) to my mum who had vascular dementia for many years before she died. Music and old photos gave her more pleasure than just about anything. If this thread has given you some stuff you can play to her then that is wonderful.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I thought I would enjoy the 70s more but listening to these songs brought back so many childhood memories that were very deep back in the old database. It is incredible that music can transport you. It’s the best type of Time Machine.

I too used to play music (Jack Jones mainly) to my mum who had vascular dementia for many years before she died. Music and old photos gave her more pleasure than just about anything. If this thread has given you some stuff you can play to her then that is wonderful.
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It has S2 and I will thanks to you and many others on here and some forms of modern technology that has brought music to the masses , , great , good , not so good and darn right shocking but all worthwhile just the same that make it along with the other music threads the most inspiring and enjoyable threads to spend time in IMO by far.

You are spot on along with old photos , it is the best form of Time machine humankind has managed to uncover to date for sure and certain.

BTW my Mum loves Jack Jones and saw him when he came to Oz so it looks like our mothers had one thing in common at least.
 
What I keep hearing in all these songs is the emphasis on melody. Whether you like them or not is maybe another matter, but they focus on melody and as I said for 63 there's is a real humanity which makes the songs authentic.

I think the arrangements and simpleness of the studio techniques just sound refreshing when compared to today's overproduced songs.

I've loved listening to these playlists. When I was getting into music I was drawn to the "Sixties" shows on the radio and preferred those songs to the ones in the 80s for these reasons - melody, catchiness etc.

Maybe all older people say it, but I do think the music of yesteryear had something that's simply missing today.
 
GoatersLeftShin said:
Maybe all older people say it, but I do think the music of yesteryear had something that's simply missing today.
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I agree. I think things are missing because of what's been added which has then in turn stripped much modern music of its soul. These additions include record companies that are not interested in any form of artistic expression; 'songwriting' teams employed to ensure the successful deployment of proven techniques; algorithms used for selecting radio playlists and who will have resources placed behind them. It's lead to a (statistically verifiable) homogenisation of popular music.

There is an academic school of thought that unless a genre simplifies itself as it evolves it dooms itself to failure. The glib neuroscientific explanation is that human brains favour simplicity so that's what we need to do to be successful. Except I have three issues with that:

1. Our understanding of neuroscience is toddler like at the moment so we've picked up some understanding but the idea that it's definitive is laughable.
2. It ignores the fact that at a commercial level music has become almost exclusively a business endeavour rather than an artist and that much of this homogeneity has been driven to reduce risk and maximise profit
3. Even if the neuroscience points to a given trait, why do we have to live down to it anyway? Short form for procedural fluency is hegemonic in social media and look where that's got us!

We're reaching a point as a species where we need to decide if we are happy to devolve to a bunch of algorithmically manipulated dance monkeys or whether we aspire to something more. Music, whether it's Stravinsky or Redding, is supposed to offer us an insight into the human condition whether that's outraging convention. baring our souls or a vehicle to dance away the heartache be it at 80 BPM or 140. It's not supposed to be an exercise in how clever an accountant and a twat with a software engineering degree can be in making money for someone who already has more money than they'll ever need.

Anyway I'm off out to buy some sealant. I'll wind the windows down, put The Honeycombs 'Have I The Right' on full blast and pretend I'm in a Ford Anglia or Hillman Minx or something and all will be well with the world.
 
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