Rock Evolution – The History of Rock & Roll - Rock & Roll (pg 47)

threespires said:
Have a cousin who was on the periphery of MacColl's circle for a while and that sounds about right.

Other factors impacted too like the diffusion of folk into different sub genres and just societal changes. I think the number of clubs or venues has gone up again from the low point of probably the early 80s. Like almost everything else musical in this country post war, the skiffle era gave folk a boost at the time.

Anyone interested in online folk resources could do worse than look at the Mudcat Cafe. It looks like it's still being maintained using AOL but the content is sound!
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Is MacColl Kirsty MacColl?
 
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Episode 1: “Flying Home” by the Benny Goodman Sextet

A look at the 1938 classic by Benny Goodman.
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This podcast might be of interest to people following this thread. Very detailed and busts quite a few myths. The episodes start off quite short (due mainly to lack of sources) but by the late 60s they get longer. He's very keen to point out it's "a history" not "the history".
 
threespires said:
I was referring to Ewan. I don't think Kirsty actually had that much to do with her Dad, she certainly didn't seem to think he was an influence of any sort. Don't know how much she saw of him?
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In a 1989 interview she said

“Setting the record straight on her upbringing, “My father is Ewan MacColl, my mother is Jean MacColl. I didn’t grow up with my dad, I grew up with my mum who wasn’t a musician but a choreographer. I knew my dad did gigs, but I only saw him once a week so it didn’t have that much impact. And I wasn’t really that interested in folk music because I associated it with their generation, not mine. I was into pop music. This musical, folk heritage that I’m supposed to have just didn’t exist. I was probably pretty lonely as a child. My brother had left home, so I was on my own a lot. I learned guitar at school and seemed to spend my childhood listening to records. Now, when I hear a single I bought when I was eight, I can picture what I was wearing and doing then. Play me The Three Degrees and I’m back in the old school disco … “

But I seem to remember seeing something where she said she took Kite along for him to listen to - he demanded to see the text - so she gave him it and he sat and listened in silence and then gave a non-committal grunt which she took to be approval. I’m not sure how much I’m remembering correctly - but I had the impression of a daughter desperately seeking her absent Fathers approval. These relationship are so complicated!
 
cyan said:
But I seem to remember seeing something where she said she took Kite along for him to listen to - he demanded to see the text - so she gave him it and he sat and listened in silence and then gave a non-committal grunt which she took to be approval. I’m not sure how much I’m remembering correctly - but I had the impression of a daughter desperately seeking her absent Fathers approval. These relationship are so complicated!
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Found it …

These had been there from the beginning. The effect of Kirsty’s father, the folk musician Ewan, who drifted in and out of her life as a child, persisted; against him, she wanted to rebel at the same time as she wanted to impress him. (When she played him 1989’s Kite, released earlier in the year that he died, he asked to read the “text” and turned the album down, before saying, ‘Very good, Kirsty. That’s the best thing I’ve ever heard you do”. She was pleased, Lillywhite said: “We all need parental acceptance”.) https://thequietus.com/opinion-and-essays/black-sky-thinking/kirsty-maccoll-see-that-girl-box/
 
cyan said:
Found it …

These had been there from the beginning. The effect of Kirsty’s father, the folk musician Ewan, who drifted in and out of her life as a child, persisted; against him, she wanted to rebel at the same time as she wanted to impress him. (When she played him 1989’s Kite, released earlier in the year that he died, he asked to read the “text” and turned the album down, before saying, ‘Very good, Kirsty. That’s the best thing I’ve ever heard you do”. She was pleased, Lillywhite said: “We all need parental acceptance”.) https://thequietus.com/opinion-and-essays/black-sky-thinking/kirsty-maccoll-see-that-girl-box/
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Good read that, thanks. Ewan MacColl was quite a domineering bloke by most accounts.
 
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