Roll call for 9 minute protest

[Prestwich_Blue]

Do they though, I've bought quite a few re sale tickets and while I've paid more than the SC holder got for it, not 3 times.Maybe some do end up on ticketing sights, I don't know but plenty seem to go onto the club ticket site.

There's two different issues here.

If you sold your seat on the ticket exchange for every game, you'd get back exactly what you paid for it, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing wrong with that.

The club will then sell the ticket at the prevailing price for that block. Again, while I think our prices are out of line, particularly for Category B & C games, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that. I don't have any sympathy for the people using that as a stick to beat the club with.

But he is technically right that they can sell a ticket for close to three times the price the ticket holder gets. If you have a concession season ticket as I do, I'd get back just over £23. They can then sell that seat at £63 for full adult price. But no one is being ripped off in that sense, as the club has done things by the book.

 

[blueparrot]

There's two different issues here.

If you sold your seat on the ticket exchange for every game, you'd get back exactly what you paid for it, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing wrong with that.

The club will then sell the ticket at the prevailing price for that block. Again, while I think our prices are out of line, particularly for Category B & C games, there's nothing intrinsically wrong with that. I don't have any sympathy for the people using that as a stick to beat the club with.

But he is technically right that they can sell a ticket for close to three times the price. If you have a concession season ticket as I do, I'd get back just over £23. They can then sell that seat at £63 for full adult price. But no one is being ripped off in that sense, as the club has done things by the book.

Fair enough ,didn't think of the concession thing.

 

[Marvin.]

Turning viagogo into via no show and highlighting the 9 is a no brainer. If it was just a demo outside the main stand the media would not have been interested in the story.

It’s already putting the club under tremendous pressure.

They announced the partnership and we needed to respond immediately and we have done. At the game before the citymatters meeting so it puts pressure on the club that meeting.

For those who say “I’ll probably go but wanted something bigger” that’s what groups are working against. Apathy. The reason we have not had bigger protests before is because everybody wants to run with their own idea and not back just what’s out there. Probably stay on the concourse needs to become yes I am staying on the concourse and I will encourage 5-10 people that are going to do exactly the same.

There’s a range of things to do

7pm demo outside the Colin bell stand meet at the statues. We are talking to fans and leafleting.

754 - go in to the seats 9 minutes after kick off. Stay on the concourse and take your time with your pint. Film the concourse and send the footage to 1894 on twitter to show the scenes on the concourse.

If the club don’t listen we continue to turn the screw.

Come off the league cup scheme. We can call for further pressure coming up FA Cup, Champs League, Platinum. You give club chance to respond and if they are not sincere we call for more scheme boycotts in advance of further home games.

You bet they are nervous. They are scrambling round for any type of PR - asking papers to go with the non story about Haaland and a mascot to take attention away from the story.

They then rush out some discounts for future home games this season. Pressure works.

If people don’t seize opportunities like this the you will only have yourselves to blame. There is no point moaning about being surrounded by Madrid fans if you are not prepared to fight fire with fire.

9 mins is symbolic. Financial action against the club you can all do that.

We won’t let up the messaging or the tone of messaging until there is a change of heart from the club. We can thaw out the messaging if they are going to change and reach out to fans.

After Leicester there are 4 more home games.

Any kind of rises in ticket prices or not making season tickets available or not changing how tickets are distributed by the club means we add layers to the protests.

You can’t play all your cards in one go though otherwise you will have no cards left to play.

It’s an attritional battle and you all need to flex your muscles. Empty seats are visible and no noise will be striking but you have got to be all in and go with this as a first stage and not go oh well I’d do something different.

You still haven't said what this is about. I am not supporting a general 'We want our City back' protest in the middle of the 115 dispute. I do not believe that City are asking papers to go with the non story about Haaland and a mascot to take attention away from the viagogo story.

A number of people have been making comments about tourists that make me wary of what 'we want our City back' means.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It’s the fact that the club re sell the season tickets for three times of what they’ve reimbursed the season ticket holder that has bugged me. When I’m unable to attend on the odd occasion I give my seat to a friend or family member. The club have really lost the unique identity that attracted many of us in the first place. We all felt part of the fabric. Those days are sadly long gone, and now it’s about profit and they don’t care who attends the games as long as the said attendees spend the cash. It’s a sad reflection of modern life if I’m honest.

Liverpool fans struggle to get tickets for less than £150. They have industrial scale ticket touting and we might be heading the same way with Vianogo.

I agree with what you say about the ticket exchange, although some comments get misused by our Directors. For example, they will infer that fans want more money for their returned tickets and introduce the Vianogo touting system.

Fans will notice a difference when the Face Value pages go. There will be a further reduction in working class fans in the ground.

 

[wearethesouthstand]

You still haven't said what this is about. I am not supporting a general 'We want our City back' protest in the middle of the 115 dispute. I do not believe that City are asking papers to go with the non story about Haaland and a mascot to take attention away from the viagogo story.

A number of people have been making comments about tourists that make me wary of what we want our City back means. am not supporting anti-City owner protests at the moment unless it's in support of lower ticket prices. The tweets and flyers that have been produced look like it's about viagogo and the club ownership.

The club did offer the story about haaland / mascot round the papers a couple of journos whatsapped us the evidence

If you don’t know what this is all about then ask some other blues then , nothing we will say will ever resonate with you.

 

[Manchester33]

This is wrong though. At Anfield the top price for any game is £60, which is the full adult price for their Main Stand. We're charging over £60 for Wolves in SS3 and probably more for Villa.

It's £78 in 93:20 for Palace and the lowest price is £61. At Arsenal the lowest price you'd pay for the equivalent game is £43. At Spurs for their game against Palace the cheapest ticket is £48. A Chelsea Category B game is from £46 to £64.

We're well out of line with the other big clubs.

Good post PB.

The club are benchmarking our 'match day revenue' figures against:

Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal (all London based clubs) + United and Liverpool (huge worldwide supporter base).

Our fanbase differs entirely from those clubs and the MDR will always reflect that. The club got overexcited after the Haaland/Treble seasons caused a surge in demand. Now our performances have dropped and the 'gloryhunters' aren't as interested, it's been left to the legacy fans who continue to be priced out.

 

[DelToro]

The club did offer the story about haaland / mascot round the papers a couple of journos whatsapped us the evidence

If you don’t know what this is all about then ask some other blues then , nothing we will say will ever resonate with you.

Let’s see the evidence please.

 

[SK14BLUE]

Just feel like the club are losing the unique bond they once had with the working class Mancunian fans, it’s a big thing to mess around with. We were the first club to realise this back in the day. Junior Blues etc. I know things move on but I recognise we are losing our identity and that is a big mistake in my opinion. I’m an old **** btw!

 

[Manchester33]

A number of people have been making comments about tourists that make me wary of what 'we want our City back' means.

I think it's pretty clear that City have jumped on the term 'tourist' causing some people offence, and weaponised the term to try and discredit the incredibly valid concerns fans have about opposition/non-city fans sitting in the home end ahead of their Viagogo partnership.

They knew the shitstorm it was going to cause. So they tried to silence the argument with a petty trick.

We all know what 'we want our City back' means. Let's not create a lazy 'racism' argument against these campaigns that completely undermines City fans' main concern (which is entirely justified).

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Let’s see the evidence please.

We’re not going to put 12 years of hard earned contacts and trust with contacts at risk to someone on here who doesn’t really care.

You don’t have to take us at face value.

We’re happy with the information we receive from various sources and will continue to use that to our advantage.

cheers

 

[M18CTID]

You still haven't said what this is about. I am not supporting a general 'We want our City back' protest in the middle of the 115 dispute. I do not believe that City are asking papers to go with the non story about Haaland and a mascot to take attention away from the viagogo story.

A number of people have been making comments about tourists that make me wary of what we want our City back means. am not supporting anti-City owner protests at the moment unless it's in support of lower ticket prices. The tweets and flyers that have been produced look like it's about viagogo and the club ownership.

I don't know where you've been all season but this isn't just about Viagogo. Viagogo just happens to be the straw that broke the camel's back. No, this isn't just about Viagogo and the other 8 official ticket resale partners. This is also about wider ticketing issues such as incremental season ticket price increases, ever-increasing match day prices, the erosion of seasoncard numbers, the refusal to offer new seasoncards, the club only offering Flexi-Gold and the up front cost that goes with it, the club selling tickets via third party websites to anybody and everybody and not putting enough checks in place as to whether those buying are home or away fans and then not giving much of a shit if they are away fans, and the club refusing for weeks to meet with City Matters over ticket prices despite saying ages ago that they would (yes, I know they're now meeting this coming Thursday but that's weeks later than they said they would).

You know about all the above issues because you're a regular poster on here and you've posted in many of the relevant threads so I'm not sure why you're being so disingenuous about it.

 

[blueparrot]

I don't know where you've been all season but this isn't just about Viagogo. Viagogo just happens to be the straw that broke the camel's back. No, this isn't just about Viagogo and the other 8 official ticket resale partners. This is also about wider ticketing issues such as incremental season ticket price increases, ever-increasing match day prices, the erosion of seasoncard numbers, the refusal to offer new seasoncards, the up front cost for Flexi-Gold, the club selling tickets via third party websites to anybody and everybody and not putting enough checks in place as to whether those buying are home or away fans and not giving much of a shit if they are away fans, the club refusing for weeks to meet with City Matters over ticket prices despite saying weeks ago they would (yes, I know they're now meeting this coming Thursday but that's weeks later than they said they would).

You know about all the above issues because you're a regular poster on here and you've posted in many of the relevant threads so I'm not sure why you're being so disingenuous about it.

You only need to look at that mail back page posted though to see it's become about Viagogo. Whih what I posted, the Vaigogo thing has made it look very muddled, and distracted from what it should be about.

 

[LTW]

It’s the fact that the club re sell the season tickets for three times of what they’ve reimbursed the season ticket holder that has bugged me. When I’m unable to attend on the odd occasion I give my seat to a friend or family member. The club have really lost the unique identity that attracted many of us in the first place. We all felt part of the fabric. Those days are sadly long gone, and now it’s about profit and they don’t care who attends the games as long as the said attendees spend the cash. It’s a sad reflection of modern life if I’m honest.

It was unfortunately inevitable; if you celebrated any of the success that the Sheikh subsidised over the past 17 years, you can’t then complain about the erosion of the unique identity the club had, because the organic Manchester City most of us grew up a part of, and the recent monopoly of English football are very much mutually exclusive.

It’s essentially a new club - that’s why any all time 11 should be separated into pre and post 2008; otherwise non of the real club legends, who toiled generally against the odds in mediocre teams, would get anywhere near it ahead of the unprecedented raft of legitimate superstars this contemporary version of the club has had access to.

 

[CΛL]

Feel like Haaland might not be too happy if he’s been used like this in the press by the club

 

[M18CTID]

You only need to look at that mail back page posted though to see it's become about Viagogo. Whih what I posted, the Vaigogo thing has made it look very muddled, and distracted from what it should be about.

It should be pretty obvious to any City fan that it's not JUST about Viagogo. And as much as the Daily Mail isn't my newspaper of choice, the fact that it's making back page headlines in the national press is a positive as it could put further pressure on the club to do the right thing regarding the wider ticketing issues.

 

[thegoatsthegoat]

It was unfortunately inevitable; if you celebrated any of the success that the Sheikh subsidised over the past 17 years, you can’t then complain about the erosion of the unique identity the club had, because the organic Manchester City most of us grew up a part of, and the recent monopoly of English football are very much mutually exclusive.

It’s essentially a new club - that’s why any all time 11 should be separated into pre and post 2008; otherwise non of the real club legends, who toiled generally against the odds in mediocre teams, would get anywhere near it ahead of the unprecedented raft of legitimate superstars this contemporary version of the club has had access to.

at 9.30am on a monday you have posted the shittest post of the week. Some work.

 

[M18CTID]

It was unfortunately inevitable; if you celebrated any of the success that the Sheikh subsidised over the past 17 years, you can’t then complain about the erosion of the unique identity the club had, because the organic Manchester City most of us grew up a part of, and the recent monopoly of English football are very much mutually exclusive.

It’s essentially a new club - that’s why any all time 11 should be separated into pre and post 2008; otherwise non of the real club legends, who toiled generally against the odds in mediocre teams, would get anywhere near it ahead of the unprecedented raft of legitimate superstars this contemporary version of the club has had access to.

Hi Ferran

 

[mexico1970]

at 9.30am on a monday you have posted the shittest post of the week. Some work.

My crown has been snatched from me :)

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Liverpool fans struggle to get tickets for less than £150. They have industrial scale ticket touting and we might be heading the same way with Vianogo.

I agree with what you say about the ticket exchange, although some comments get misused by our Directors. For example, they will infer that fans want more money for their returned tickets and introduce the Vianogo touting system.

Fans will notice a difference when the Face Value pages go. There will be a further reduction in working class fans in the ground.

But the FV pages are just as bad. If my pro-rata season ticket cost is £45 and I sell that ticket at 'face value', let's say £65, I've made a £20 profit. Even if I sell it at £50, I've made a profit. Thats not much better than selling it on viagogo.

 

[Tarzan41]

That’s part of it and there are already some next steps for protest in place:

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Would be helpful to get the date right