Roughest grounds you've been too and biggest scraps!

[Prestwich_Blue]

St James Park in the FA Cup about 1977 I think, we won 3-1 and it was the first big following we took to St James Park after taking the place over in 1968 (which I was too young to have been at) - there was an overflow from the Gallowgate end so the coppers in their infinite wisdom let some young Geordies into our end - cue the masses of hard blokes (and I do not mean that sarcastically) pouring into our end and kicking fuck out of us. Worst violence inside an away ground I can remember. First ever police escort for me was after that match - we fucking needed it, it was murders. Think it was third round, early Jan, freezing - you could spot us Blues, we were all wearing coats, the Geordies just had short sleeved Newcastle tops on

I was at this game too. The cops could have put the Geordie kids back into the Gallowgate End at the far corner and that would have solved the problem, but no, the gormless twits just put them into our corner and, as you say, that was the signal for the thugs to get on to the running track only to be put into our section. It was threatening right from the off, and when we launched our first big cheer [I'm not sure if it was for a missed chance or a disallowed goal] it all kicked off behind us. That was the game where a City fan ran onto the pitch in protest though I didn't see it myself, being too busy watching my back. I can now say that this is the only game I have ever left a ground before the half time whistle, and I wasn't the only one either.

But what really pissed me off was that there was going to be a big inquest on these crowd disorders, yet nothing happened. Then, weeks later, Swales was commenting on drink being the cause of football violence and he used words such as [not exact quotes] "I am certain that alcohol is the cause of the violence that occured when CITY SUPPORTERS rioted at Newcastle." We were badly let down by this man in so many ways, not least of all in a comment like this.

I remember that the coppers formed a line across the pitch to stop the fans in The Leazes joining in but one nutter came onto the pitch thinking he was leading a charge. He leapt on the back of one of the coppers thinking there were loads of his mates behind him but he was on his own. Three coppers then battered fuck out of him.

 

[Ash of Ashton]

[quot"IOWBlue"]

Marseille - England V Tunisia World Cup 1998

Off the scale.

One of my oldest friends was at the beach when it all kicked off. There was a picture of him on the front page of the Times the following day,with the headline "England hooligan confronts riot police". He was dressed in T-shirt,shorts,and flip flops, in front of a line of about 40 coppers dressed as extras in a Star Wars movie. Funny as fuck.(He was actually trying to reason with the police,but don't let the truth get in the way of a sensationalist headline eh?).

Worst violence I ever saw at an England game was the Euros in 2000. Charleois(sp) v Germany........ mental.Actually witnessed a tabloid reporter trying to pay some pissed up fans to throw bottles as well,just so they could get a picture for the ragtops. Despicable scum of the highest order. (the journos not the fans)

Talking of Charlois ( Belgium ) did anyone go to the pre season friendly about 2008/9. Went with the wife and kids, aged 6 and 7. Drinking in the square before the game and i could tell it was only cos i was a "family" bloke that i wasnt attacked. Got in the ground and a small firm of City had been at it with the belgians. One of them, a woman, had a huge black eye. Coming out of the ground, the City "firm" of about 20, headed off with shouts of " come on lets do the effing belgian bar stewards". I didnt hold out much hope for them though.[/quote]

That "firm" ended up swelling to about 70/80 in a local bar and marching up towards the square only
to be surrounded by Belgian riot police and arrested, taken to an old police station and kept in cells for ages whilst everyone was processed and sent on our way in dribs and drabs about midnight.

 

[Ash of Ashton]

[quot"IOWBlue"]

Marseille - England V Tunisia World Cup 1998

Off the scale.

One of my oldest friends was at the beach when it all kicked off. There was a picture of him on the front page of the Times the following day,with the headline "England hooligan confronts riot police". He was dressed in T-shirt,shorts,and flip flops, in front of a line of about 40 coppers dressed as extras in a Star Wars movie. Funny as fuck.(He was actually trying to reason with the police,but don't let the truth get in the way of a sensationalist headline eh?).

Worst violence I ever saw at an England game was the Euros in 2000. Charleois(sp) v Germany........ mental.Actually witnessed a tabloid reporter trying to pay some pissed up fans to throw bottles as well,just so they could get a picture for the ragtops. Despicable scum of the highest order. (the journos not the fans)

Talking of Charlois ( Belgium ) did anyone go to the pre season friendly about 2008/9. Went with the wife and kids, aged 6 and 7. Drinking in the square before the game and i could tell it was only cos i was a "family" bloke that i wasnt attacked. Got in the ground and a small firm of City had been at it with the belgians. One of them, a woman, had a huge black eye. Coming out of the ground, the City "firm" of about 20, headed off with shouts of " come on lets do the effing belgian bar stewards". I didnt hold out much hope for them though.[/quote]

That "firm" ended up swelling to about 70/80 in a local bar and marching up towards the square only
to be surrounded by Belgian riot police and arrested, taken to an old police station and kept in cells for ages whilst everyone was processed and sent on our way in dribs and drabs about midnight.

 

[IOWBlue]

[quot"IOWBlue"]

Marseille - England V Tunisia World Cup 1998

Off the scale.

One of my oldest friends was at the beach when it all kicked off. There was a picture of him on the front page of the Times the following day,with the headline "England hooligan confronts riot police". He was dressed in T-shirt,shorts,and flip flops, in front of a line of about 40 coppers dressed as extras in a Star Wars movie. Funny as fuck.(He was actually trying to reason with the police,but don't let the truth get in the way of a sensationalist headline eh?).

Worst violence I ever saw at an England game was the Euros in 2000. Charleois(sp) v Germany........ mental.Actually witnessed a tabloid reporter trying to pay some pissed up fans to throw bottles as well,just so they could get a picture for the ragtops. Despicable scum of the highest order. (the journos not the fans)

Talking of Charlois ( Belgium ) did anyone go to the pre season friendly about 2008/9. Went with the wife and kids, aged 6 and 7. Drinking in the square before the game and i could tell it was only cos i was a "family" bloke that i wasnt attacked. Got in the ground and a small firm of City had been at it with the belgians. One of them, a woman, had a huge black eye. Coming out of the ground, the City "firm" of about 20, headed off with shouts of " come on lets do the effing belgian bar stewards". I didnt hold out much hope for them though.

That "firm" ended up swelling to about 70/80 in a local bar and marching up towards the square only
to be surrounded by Belgian riot police and arrested, taken to an old police station and kept in cells for ages whilst everyone was processed and sent on our way in dribs and drabs about midnight.[/quote]

was one called "the General"?

 

[levets]

Forgot about that!!! Yep, that's probably No 2 mate..... But the England fans didn't bottle it... remember when we got back... and it was all happening under our window.... and you opened the window and let all the tear gas into the bedrooms... LOFL!

-- Thu May 23, 2013 2:25 pm --



Forgot about that!!! Yep, that's probably No 2 mate..... But the England fans didn't bottle it... remember when we got back... and it was all happening under our window.... and you opened the window and let all the tear gas into the bedrooms... LOFL!

Taffy (Pete O) was with me, Willis and Dave Trow (rip) in Marseille... ask him!!!

all we could here walking up that road was (mainly) cockney voices saying 'stick together england' as Turks were trying to goad us down side streets.........then 30/40 decided to run at some down a side street.......only to re-appear 20 secs later being chased by loads of them.....funny as f*ck.
Yeh, grandstand view of the Turks/riot police outside our hotel.....until the tear gas arrived !!

Who's hotel? ... cheeky tw*t

would you like to elaborate for all the good readers mate? ;-)

He does have a point CRC... would have been murders having to sleep in that car... FIVE OF US!

-- Tue May 28, 2013 12:23 pm --

[quot"IOWBlue"]

One of my oldest friends was at the beach when it all kicked off. There was a picture of him on the front page of the Times the following day,with the headline "England hooligan confronts riot police". He was dressed in T-shirt,shorts,and flip flops, in front of a line of about 40 coppers dressed as extras in a Star Wars movie. Funny as fuck.(He was actually trying to reason with the police,but don't let the truth get in the way of a sensationalist headline eh?).

Worst violence I ever saw at an England game was the Euros in 2000. Charleois(sp) v Germany........ mental.Actually witnessed a tabloid reporter trying to pay some pissed up fans to throw bottles as well,just so they could get a picture for the ragtops. Despicable scum of the highest order. (the journos not the fans)

Talking of Charlois ( Belgium ) did anyone go to the pre season friendly about 2008/9. Went with the wife and kids, aged 6 and 7. Drinking in the square before the game and i could tell it was only cos i was a "family" bloke that i wasnt attacked. Got in the ground and a small firm of City had been at it with the belgians. One of them, a woman, had a huge black eye. Coming out of the ground, the City "firm" of about 20, headed off with shouts of " come on lets do the effing belgian bar stewards". I didnt hold out much hope for them though.

That "firm" ended up swelling to about 70/80 in a local bar and marching up towards the square only
to be surrounded by Belgian riot police and arrested, taken to an old police station and kept in cells for ages whilst everyone was processed and sent on our way in dribs and drabs about midnight.

was one called "the General"?[/quote]


Not 'The' General.... he's well out of it now....

 

[Ash of Ashton]

The General?? Ha ha
Someone did stand up and got everyone moving, maybe HE was 'The General'?
:)<br /><br />-- Tue May 28, 2013 1:32 pm --<br /><br />The General?? Ha ha
Someone did stand up and got everyone moving, maybe HE was 'The General'?
:)

 

[Ash of Ashton]

The General?? Ha ha
Someone did stand up and got everyone moving, maybe HE was 'The General'?
:)

 

[Ash of Ashton]

Wasn't it TO Jackie who got the black eyes that caused the revenge bid at Charleroi?

 

[erast fandorin]

Wasn't it TO Jackie who got the black eyes that caused the revenge bid at Charleroi?

No,the girl was from Beswick and more than capable of looking after herself,sister of one of City lads from Gorton

 

[bainy]

was one called "the General"?[/quote]


Not 'The' General.... he's well out of it now....[/quote]

Not seen 'the general' around for a good 2 years...would often see him in Sheffield where i live and have a chat. Does anyone know whats happened to him???

 

[busdriver]

St James Park in the FA Cup about 1977 I think, we won 3-1 and it was the first big following we took to St James Park after taking the place over in 1968 (which I was too young to have been at) - there was an overflow from the Gallowgate end so the coppers in their infinite wisdom let some young Geordies into our end - cue the masses of hard blokes (and I do not mean that sarcastically) pouring into our end and kicking fuck out of us. Worst violence inside an away ground I can remember. First ever police escort for me was after that match - we fucking needed it, it was murders. Think it was third round, early Jan, freezing - you could spot us Blues, we were all wearing coats, the Geordies just had short sleeved Newcastle tops on

I was at this game too. The cops could have put the Geordie kids back into the Gallowgate End at the far corner and that would have solved the problem, but no, the gormless twits just put them into our corner and, as you say, that was the signal for the thugs to get on to the running track only to be put into our section. It was threatening right from the off, and when we launched our first big cheer [I'm not sure if it was for a missed chance or a disallowed goal] it all kicked off behind us. That was the game where a City fan ran onto the pitch in protest though I didn't see it myself, being too busy watching my back. I can now say that this is the only game I have ever left a ground before the half time whistle, and I wasn't the only one either.

But what really pissed me off was that there was going to be a big inquest on these crowd disorders, yet nothing happened. Then, weeks later, Swales was commenting on drink being the cause of football violence and he used words such as [not exact quotes] "I am certain that alcohol is the cause of the violence that occured when CITY SUPPORTERS rioted at Newcastle." We were badly let down by this man in so many ways, not least of all in a comment like this.

I remember that the coppers formed a line across the pitch to stop the fans in The Leazes joining in but one nutter came onto the pitch thinking he was leading a charge. He leapt on the back of one of the coppers thinking there were loads of his mates behind him but he was on his own. Three coppers then battered fuck out of him.

i was there as well, snow on the ground and georgies walking about in t-shirts! remember getting on the pitch at some point as it was kicking off all over the place. when the match was over we were escorted around the pitch and came out of the ground the other side. very subdued walking back to the station after that.

 

[Ash of Ashton]

Wasn't it TO Jackie who got the black eyes that caused the revenge bid at Charleroi?

No,the girl was from Beswick and more than capable of looking after herself,sister of one of City lads from Gorton

Didn't actually see her, just went with the flow after the match. Wrong move with hindsight, no fun being tied to a Mossley blue in the back of a police wagon!!

 

[canyerdogputoutafire]

Wasn't it TO Jackie who got the black eyes that caused the revenge bid at Charleroi?

No,the girl was from Beswick and more than capable of looking after herself,sister of one of City lads from Gorton

Didn't actually see her, just went with the flow after the match. Wrong move with hindsight, no fun being tied to a Mossley blue in the back of a police wagon!!

Remember Ash stood on his own on Claremont Rd just before kick off time
against spurs in the F A cup.

 

[levets]

was one called "the General"?

Not 'The' General.... he's well out of it now....[/quote]

Not seen 'the general' around for a good 2 years...would often see him in Sheffield where i live and have a chat. Does anyone know whats happened to him???[/quote]

Moved back to Oldham now I believe.

 

[Ash of Ashton]

No,the girl was from Beswick and more than capable of looking after herself,sister of one of City lads from Gorton

Didn't actually see her, just went with the flow after the match. Wrong move with hindsight, no fun being tied to a Mossley blue in the back of a police wagon!!

Remember Ash stood on his own on Claremont Rd just before kick off time
against spurs in the F A cup.

Wasn't me, I was cowering on Kippax St!!<br /><br />-- Thu May 30, 2013 10:23 am --<br /><br />

No,the girl was from Beswick and more than capable of looking after herself,sister of one of City lads from Gorton

Didn't actually see her, just went with the flow after the match. Wrong move with hindsight, no fun being tied to a Mossley blue in the back of a police wagon!!

Remember Ash stood on his own on Claremont Rd just before kick off time
against spurs in the F A cup.

Wasn't me, I was cowering on Kippax St!!

 

[Manchester33]

'The general' sounds solid haha.

 

[mostonbluemark]

One of the most surreal away days i went on was Ipswich. Think it was in the 70's.

Remember getting the Finglands coaches, drinking in the Hardy Well next door, at around midnight on a Friday night.

We actually arrived in Ipswich about 7.00 in the morning. Straight to a Cafe for a bit of breakfast.

To kill time we chipped together for a football and about a hundred of us had a kickabout in the park before the pub opened at 10.30.

Can't remember what it was called, the beer was Tolly Cobbold, in fact the pub might have been called that as well.

Absolutely bladdered as you can imagine as it was a 3.00pm kick off.

Think we lost about 3/4-1 as well, that was a long night/day/night. Anybody else remember this?

 

[Churchill123]

One of the most surreal away days i went on was Ipswich. Think it was in the 70's.

Remember getting the Finglands coaches, drinking in the Hardy Well next door, at around midnight on a Friday night.

We actually arrived in Ipswich about 7.00 in the morning. Straight to a Cafe for a bit of breakfast.

To kill time we chipped together for a football and about a hundred of us had a kickabout in the park before the pub opened at 10.30.

Can't remember what it was called, the beer was Tolly Cobbold, in fact the pub might have been called that as well.

Absolutely bladdered as you can imagine as it was a 3.00pm kick off.

Think we lost about 3/4-1 as well, that was a long night/day/night. Anybody else remember this?

Sounds like a proper good away day pal!

 

[Hotrocks]

Debbie sounds hard as nails!!

She wasn't even big in build, quite nice looking in a tomboy kinda way too!....but I did shit it when she was about!

Did she have a brother? Sure I saw her always with a guy who dressed like her. Denim jackets etc. She lead blues into some big fights.


She killed herself.

Yep she was always with her brother, She used to hang around with Scotty and Brian Slater.

And I`m sure she was from Denton..........kiled herself jumping off a bridge on the M67 I heard.

 

[njmcfc1894]

She wasn't even big in build, quite nice looking in a tomboy kinda way too!....but I did shit it when she was about!

Did she have a brother? Sure I saw her always with a guy who dressed like her. Denim jackets etc. She lead blues into some big fights.


She killed herself.

Yep she was always with her brother, She used to hang around with Scotty and Brian Slater.

And I`m sure she was from Denton..........kiled herself jumping off a bridge on the M67 I heard.

Mickey Francis mentions her in Guvnors book