Russian invasion of Ukraine

[mosssideblue]

We would hope so, but how far has it been purged by Putin and his cronies?

May just be a line of nodding yes men.

If it's anything like our nuc deterrent, it only takes one person in the chain, to "lose a key", and birds will not fly

 

[marco]

this one is tricky to be fair. From some of the stories from them they were still under the impression they were on exercises until they started to take fire back. They had no clue they were even in Ukraine.

this obviously only applies to a subset of them. The conscripts etc.

this is correct from the reports,they were given some sort of contract to sign prior to the invasion if they didnt sign it it was signed on there behalf and the soldier sent to jail for up to 10 years

 

[mosssideblue]

this is correct from the reports,they were given some sort of contract to sign prior to the invasion if they didnt sing it was signed on there behalf and the soldier sent to jail for up to 10 years

AKA Russian democracy

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Did you post a link yesterday to a comprehensive piece on the suprisingly seemingly uncoordinated Russian military machine - no in depth training, no real logistics, analogue radios, poor conscripts, missing overall command structures. Cf the west.

or it might have been someone else.

either way it was an insightful long read… which also echos your opening line.

The annexation of Crimea took over 6 weeks, this operation is much bigger than that. If it’s costing them a billion pounds a day to keep it going the longer this goes on this will bankrupt them with sanctions biting. Their ammo could even end up running out at some point, this could end up being a fatal mistake for Putin’s leadership.

 

[west didsblue]

Now that it’s looking possible that Russia are facing humiliation in Ukraine we’re probably entering the most dangerous week in world history while we wait to find out whether Putin is mad enough to order the launch of his nukes and whether his chain of command will follow those orders.
No point worrying, there’s nothing we can do so hope everyone has a good week.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

If it's anything like our nuc deterrent, it only takes one person in the chain, to "lose a key", and birds will not fly

Hopefully it is. But I wouldn't be confident about it.

 

[117 M34]

If Russia didn't have nuclear weapons, do you think we would have sent in troops by now?

 

[BlueAnorak]

fahkin hell - close call

Indeed.

 

[marco]

If it's anything like our nuc deterrent, it only takes one person in the chain, to "lose a key", and birds will not fly

but those in the chain could be and most likely be acting on false information,any normal military person (sane) would press the button if the requirements were there to do so,the chain of command could be told the USA have launced when infact they have not

 

[marco]

If Russia didn't have nuclear weapons, do you think we would have sent in troops by now?

yes,we'd be wiping the floor with them at this very moment without a doubt