Russian invasion of Ukraine

[lonestay]

Lovely place Fairford but the streets have no name.

Let's hope it's not Sunday bloody Sunday today !
There were at least two U2 aircraft departed around 0930 and we're back at 1630 Friday and a couple of B52s as well .

 

[cleavers]

You have to remember that the US knew that an invasion was imminent almost a week before it happened. You'd have to be very naive to think that this intelligence isn't working its way around through very well placed people on the ground both in Ukraine and possibly even in Russia.

Week ? The West signalled it was "likely" before Christmas. I work for something alongside the military, we haven't done night shifts for over 3 years, but it's in our terms, that we could go back to doing so at any time with 10 days notice, we got that notice before Christmas, but it has since been rescinded again.

 

[domalino]

 

[urban genie]

Lol

He's a contrarian, he would have the oppoiste opinion to his peice if it went against the majority view just for the sake of it.

 

[domalino]

It’s not 10000 anymore it’s now 11000 so that’s another 1000 from yesterday . No one knows the true figures and both sides are banging the propaganda drum.

Well yeah it’s only going to go in one direction, not sure why that’s a surprise.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Numbers machine repeatedly squawking 5-1 and 1-6. Not sure what it means though.

Previous derby maulings?

 

[Elbow beards]

Let's hope it's not Sunday bloody Sunday today !
There were at least two U2 aircraft departed around 0930 and we're back at 1630 Friday and a couple of B52s as well .

That would make a good thread. Bands and songs that are taken from the military/ war.

 

[urban genie]

It’s not 10000 anymore it’s now 11000 so that’s another 1000 from yesterday . No one knows the true figures and both sides are banging the propaganda drum.

On politics show this morning Admiral Sir Tony Radakin was on and said Ukrainian and Russian estimates cannot be verified at all so not to take any figure as fact.

I mean are Ukraine or Russia going round counting? Are they fuck, both will inflate and deflate the numbers for morale purposes, only at the end of this will the real figure be known

 

[Elbow beards]

Daily Mail but interesting article by Hitchens.

PETER HITCHENS: One glorious day in Sevastopol, I saw what was coming

PETER HITCHENS: In the long-ago summer of 2010, I found myself in the harbour of Sevastopol, surveying the rival fleets of Russia and Ukraine as they rode at anchor in the lovely Crimean sunshine.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Peter hitchens thinks he's victorian gentry. If you met him in the street he'd look down his gigantic nose at you, like you were a peasant, not worth of his presence. In short a ****.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Both president and party were elected in, but Putin didn't manage to poison the former this time. What do you mean by overthrown?

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne: The attempt to lever Kiev into the western camp by ousting an elected leader made conflict certain. It could be a threat to us all

www.theguardian.com

‘When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover, politicians such as William Hague brazenly misled parliament about the legality of what had taken place: the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia's most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.’