Russian invasion of Ukraine

[domalino]

 

[Slipper One]

Would love that to be true but I don't think the west is brave enough to get involved.

I don't think it's a case of bravery Keeper, it's more containment of the situation.

The whole conflict has to be kept manageable and putting boots on the ground and no fly zones into effect, would only cause an escalation.

It's possible that Special Forces are there now on surveillance missions or 'advice', but they can't be caught representing NATO. That would be a real plus for Putin.

He's already threatened Nuclear weapons, which to a certain extent has been treated as a bluff, but not by any means discarded.

Some complain that not enough is being done, but I'd suggest a lot is. There would be military and government channels and communications open between the west and Russia and the west (and much of the rest of the world) are doing a lot to support and assist Ukraine in many ways.

What we don't need are emotional kneejerk reactions, especially based on speculation. This whole conflict, war, call it what you will, is sitting on a bit of a knife edge and there are many important decisions being made by people hoping they are making the right ones.

As I've said before, I think Putin has miscalculated and expected the Ukrainians to put up very little resistance, along with the west faffing around as per usual, but that certainly hasn't been the case following his invasion.

Now he's under pressure with more limited options, so the decision makers have to get it right, regardless of the rising casualties and how awful the footage is. Something easier said than done.

 

[Damocles]

Twice they agreed a ceasefire then bombed them as they fled

Starting to think this Putin fella might be a bit of a dick, personally

 

[Slipper One]

It might not result in nucs being fired if NATO protected Ukraine.

Just curious as to how you would go about this mosssideblue?

 

[Slipper One]

I get it, it's all we can do. They are begging us for help to defend their country and families from a war we all know is wrong, but in not getting involved militarily we accept their lives should be sacrificed for the greater good.

As sad and unfortunate as it is, you've pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

I'm sure the western military would love to get directly involved and put an end to this, but there's a reason why they're not. For the greater good or bigger picture, call it what you will, but that's what it is. Keeping the genie in the bottle and managing the issue is the priority at the moment.

 

[Slipper One]

In the end, we will not remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends

Any explanation as to what you mean by this bigstan?

 

[Slipper One]

I'm more concerned with the number of innocent Ukrainians who have been killed. Women and children included.

This is important and the protests need to be ramped up, because I think this is the most probable way that Putin will be ousted from power. These people have my utmost admiration and respect.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

 

[TCIB]

No words really, "watch this" i would say to anyone reading this comment.

 

[urban genie]

You’ve excelled yourself there!

You know me, every so often I like to put in a misspelt drunken ramble that will cause mither, neve meant in malice as I probably have no idea what I was writing, then wake up next day and never go see what nonsense I wrote. ;-)