Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BobKowalski]

Strangely Putin thinks Boris is the leading the European response when it comes to opposing Russia.

Think the Kremlin declared UK PM Johnson as the “most active anti-Russian leader”, so US and Europe bow before us :)

Personally, I’d say Ukraine was leading the European response.

 

[northendenton]

Yeah, but he doesn't wear a suit.

Clothes dont make the man.

 

[west didsblue]

Or Downing Street.

Fair point

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You directly responded, but with a somewhat diversionary answer trying to deflect.

i.e. now you’re sounding like someone with a legal background.

;-)

My background isn’t in law…

 

[KS55]

it’s not a coincidence that the Kremlin is picking out Johnson the day he’s pictured looking alone and isolated at NATO and the day after he got snubbed from an EU meeting because of his attempts to politicise the cause and take all the credit by screaming about “WORLD LEADING” and bringing Brexit into it.


Obviously anyone with a shred of common sense knows the guy who came up writing for a paper that was secretly funded by Russia, whose mayorship of London saw it become Londongrad, whose ascent to power came off the back of a Russian funded Brexit campaign, who belongs to a party up to its eyeballs in Russian money and who skirted round the intelligence community to get his FSB agent friend’s son made a lord is not Russias biggest enemy.

Erm.....the mayor is not responsible for immigration. There is no evidence that Russia funded the Brexit campaign. Boris denies any interference in the Lebedev case.
PS What is this paper funded by Russia?

 

[metalblue]

Think the Kremlin declared UK PM Johnson as the “most active anti-Russian leader”, so US and Europe bow before us :)

Personally, I’d say Ukraine was leading the European response.

Is far closer to the reality than cloak and dagger theories about the Tories being in bed with the Russians because of a couple lf million quid a worth of donations or the such or Johnson being a useful idiot.

Russia sees the UK as a second tier power unable to punch enough force to project its foreign policy. Russia sees itself as a first tier power, along with the US and China at a push. These first tier powers, as far as Russia is concerned, should all have a sphere of influence where “might is right”. Now Russia has a problem because the UK is closely aligned to the US and is a nuclear power and a permanent member of the security council. It sees France as second tier and far more pro Russian and far more willing to be moulded to Russian will than the UK. Russias approach is to destabilise the west by fracturing UK and Europe which in turn it would see as fracturing the US and Europe allowing Russia to expand its sphere of influence. So far from being something that’s only been around since Johnson become PM this has been Russian policy for the best part of 2 decades.

Unfortunately for Russia the invasion of Ukraine has actually shown them to be a bit shit and being a second tier power would currently seem to be a bit aspirational let alone first tier.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Lol the bbc "isolated" narrative.
Standing waiting for a photo for a whole 5 seconds.

 

[west didsblue]

Erm.....the mayor is not responsible for immigration. There is no evidence that Russia funded the Brexit campaign. Boris denies any interference in the Lebedev case.
PS What is this paper funded by Russia?

Google “Arron Banks Russia”. Take your pick of articles.

 

[BobKowalski]

Is far closer to the reality than cloak and dagger theories about the Tories being in bed with the Russians because of a couple lf million quid a worth of donations or the such or Johnson being a useful idiot.

Russia sees the UK as a second tier power unable to punch enough force to project its foreign policy. Russia sees itself as a first tier power, along with the US and China at a push. These first tier powers, as far as Russia is concerned, should all have a sphere of influence where “might is right”. Now Russia has a problem because the UK is closely aligned to the US and is a nuclear power and a permanent member of the security council. It sees France as second tier and far more pro Russian and far more willing to be moulded to Russian will than the UK. Russias approach is to destabilise the west by fracturing UK and Europe which in turn it would see as fracturing the US and Europe allowing Russia to expand its sphere of influence. So far from being something that’s only been around since Johnson become PM this has been Russian policy for the best part of 2 decades.

Unfortunately for Russia the invasion of Ukraine has actually shown them to be a bit shit and being a second tier power would currently seem to be a bit aspirational let alone first tier.

Agreed. I also think to an extent that the UK acts as ‘US bashing by proxy‘, but yes, trying to engineer splits has been Russian policy for decades. Smaller countries acting together and daring to speak on equal terms is an anathema to Russia.

Never has a country’s superpower aspirations being so starkly exposed as Russia’s right now. The tragedy is that the cost of this exposure is needless death and destruction.

 

[BobKowalski]

Das Spiegel commenting on the €37 million worth of arms from Germany. Providing arms in a conflict zone is still a sensitive subject, given Germany’s two decade ban, so wouldn’t be surprised if more was being shipped under the radar.

‘Panzer Faust, rockets, night vision devices - according to SPIEGEL information, a confidential government list shows that Germany has already given Ukraine more armaments than is publicly known. Further deliveries are being prepared.‘