mosssideblue
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Why on earth would Putin be happy?
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Russian invasion of Ukraine
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lee_wsm
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If Wagner take over could it be the start of the end of war look good to Russians by saying it was all a lie and they are the saviour of the country. Or does the deranged cock sucker go all out for Ukraine war even though he had publicly said it’s a sham war brought in by the rich
marco
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If Wagner take over the Ukraine war is most certainly over if they dont it could still trigger a withdraw of Russian soldiersIf Wagner take over could it be the start of the end of war look good to Russians by saying it was all a lie and they are the saviour of the country. Or does the deranged cock sucker go all out for Ukraine war even though he had publicly said it’s a sham war brought in by the rich
He will not be happy with what’s happening in Russia but atm in Ukraine he will be content .Why on earth would Putin be happy?
He will never take over Russia mate more like he will be took outIf Wagner take over could it be the start of the end of war look good to Russians by saying it was all a lie and they are the saviour of the country. Or does the deranged cock sucker go all out for Ukraine war even though he had publicly said it’s a sham war brought in by the rich
Wagner will be wiped out but Putins grip is now thin and he is vulnerable. Russia in a state of panic . Things are going to unfold rapidly ….You will probably find that this Wagner leader doesn’t see the end of next week . Atm putin will be happy as by the looks of it the Ukrainian counter offensive is stalling and they are losing massive casualties so putin is now appearing more and also if this Wagner leader did get in power he is actually worse than putin and then they would throw even more at Ukraine
lee_wsm
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lee_wsm
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All depends on who is backing Wagner now. For months people talked about a coup was needing a leader and then it could become a reality is this the time that high power inside men have changed sidesHe will never take over Russia mate more like he will be took out
Transcript of Putins speech.
I appeal to the citizens of Russia, to the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement and security services, fighters and commanders currently fighting on their positions, repelling the enemy attacks, doing it heroically. I spoke to the commanders in all directions last night. I appeal also to those who were deceptively pulled into the criminal adventure, pushed towards a serious crime of an armed mutiny. Russia today is leading the most difficult war for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-nazis and their handlers. Against us, the whole military, economical and information machines of the West are turned. We fight for the lives and security of our people. For our sovereignty and independence. The right to remain Russia, a state with 1000 years of history. It’s a battle where the fate of our people is resolved requires uniting of all our forces, unity, consolidation and responsibility. Everything else must be shoved to the side that weakens us. Any arguments that our external enemies are using to undermine us from within. Thus, actions splitting our unity is a betrayal of our people, our combat brothers who fight now at the front. It’s a strike in the back of our country and our people. Exactly this strike was dealt in 1917 when the country was in WW1, but its victory was stolen. Intrigues, and arguments behind the army’s back turned out to be the greatest catastrophe, destruction of the army and the state, loss of huge territories, resulting in a tragedy and a civil war. Russians were killing Russians, brothers killing brothers. But the beneficiaries were various political chevaliers of fortune and foreign powers who divided the country, and tore it into parts. We will not let this happen. We will protect our people and state from any threats, including internal betrayal. What we’re facing is exactly internal betrayal. Extraordinary ambitions and personal interests led to treason. Treason of their own country and people and of the case that fighters of Wagner were dying for alongside our soldiers. Heroes who liberated Soledar and Artemivsk, towns and cities of the Donbas. They fought and were giving lives to Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their name and glory were also betrayed by those who are trying to organise the mutiny, pushing the country into anarchy and brother-killing, to a defeat, at the end, and capitulation. Repeat: any internal mutiny is a deadly threat to our state, to us as a nation. It’s a strike against our nation, our people. And our actions to defend the fatherland from such a threat will be brutal. Anyone who consciously went on the path of betrayal, who prepared the armed mutiny, went on the path of blackmail and terrorist actions, will take an inevitable punishment. They will answer to the law and our people. The Armed Forces and other departments were properly instructed. Extra KTO measures are now being implemented in Moscow, Moscow region, a number of other regions. Decisive actions will be taken to stabilise the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult. The operation of civilian and military control departments is practically blocked. As a President of Russia and the Supreme Commander, as a citizen of Russia, I will do everything to defend the country, protect the Constitution, lives and safety, liberty of the citizens. Those who prepared the military mutiny, who raise weapons against combat brothers, have betrayed Russia, and will pay for this. And those who are being pulled into the crime, I’m asking to not make this crucial, tragic, unrepeatable mistake. Do the one right choice - stop participating in criminal actions. I believe that we will defend and preserve what’s sacred for us. And together with the motherland, we will overcome all challenges, and become even stronger.
I appeal to the citizens of Russia, to the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement and security services, fighters and commanders currently fighting on their positions, repelling the enemy attacks, doing it heroically. I spoke to the commanders in all directions last night. I appeal also to those who were deceptively pulled into the criminal adventure, pushed towards a serious crime of an armed mutiny. Russia today is leading the most difficult war for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-nazis and their handlers. Against us, the whole military, economical and information machines of the West are turned. We fight for the lives and security of our people. For our sovereignty and independence. The right to remain Russia, a state with 1000 years of history. It’s a battle where the fate of our people is resolved requires uniting of all our forces, unity, consolidation and responsibility. Everything else must be shoved to the side that weakens us. Any arguments that our external enemies are using to undermine us from within. Thus, actions splitting our unity is a betrayal of our people, our combat brothers who fight now at the front. It’s a strike in the back of our country and our people. Exactly this strike was dealt in 1917 when the country was in WW1, but its victory was stolen. Intrigues, and arguments behind the army’s back turned out to be the greatest catastrophe, destruction of the army and the state, loss of huge territories, resulting in a tragedy and a civil war. Russians were killing Russians, brothers killing brothers. But the beneficiaries were various political chevaliers of fortune and foreign powers who divided the country, and tore it into parts. We will not let this happen. We will protect our people and state from any threats, including internal betrayal. What we’re facing is exactly internal betrayal. Extraordinary ambitions and personal interests led to treason. Treason of their own country and people and of the case that fighters of Wagner were dying for alongside our soldiers. Heroes who liberated Soledar and Artemivsk, towns and cities of the Donbas. They fought and were giving lives to Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their name and glory were also betrayed by those who are trying to organise the mutiny, pushing the country into anarchy and brother-killing, to a defeat, at the end, and capitulation. Repeat: any internal mutiny is a deadly threat to our state, to us as a nation. It’s a strike against our nation, our people. And our actions to defend the fatherland from such a threat will be brutal. Anyone who consciously went on the path of betrayal, who prepared the armed mutiny, went on the path of blackmail and terrorist actions, will take an inevitable punishment. They will answer to the law and our people. The Armed Forces and other departments were properly instructed. Extra KTO measures are now being implemented in Moscow, Moscow region, a number of other regions. Decisive actions will be taken to stabilise the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult. The operation of civilian and military control departments is practically blocked. As a President of Russia and the Supreme Commander, as a citizen of Russia, I will do everything to defend the country, protect the Constitution, lives and safety, liberty of the citizens. Those who prepared the military mutiny, who raise weapons against combat brothers, have betrayed Russia, and will pay for this. And those who are being pulled into the crime, I’m asking to not make this crucial, tragic, unrepeatable mistake. Do the one right choice - stop participating in criminal actions. I believe that we will defend and preserve what’s sacred for us. And together with the motherland, we will overcome all challenges, and become even stronger.
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feedmpenzaandhewillscore
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Wagner will be wiped out but Putins grip is now thin and he is vulnerable. Russia in a state of panic . Things are going to unfold rapidly ….
Key to this is falling is the Russian military, the blame is being directed at them by Wagner. However they most be thinking this whole war is a mistake and fall in behind Putin’s chef. Will be interesting to see how far this snow balls.