Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Elbow beards]

@spectatorindex: BREAKING: Moscow says countries sending military equipment to Ukraine will be responsible if they are used against Russian forces.

Of course he's gone say that, he's full off shit, every little things is a threat cos he knows he's fucked with all the aid Ukraine are getting.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Putin is too self obsessed and arrogant to kill himself.

I'm not saying you're wrong in suggesting Putin won't use nukes. He may, or he may not. No-one knows what goes on inside his tiny head.

But I do think you are mistaken if you think he won't use them for fear of it resulting in his death. He would very likely conclude that he could use tactical nukes and that the west would never respond with a nuclear attack against Russia, for fear of starting WW3. And he'd be spot on in that assessment IMO. I cannot conceive of any circumstances where the US would risk tens or hundreds of millions of US lives lost, over a conflict over Ukraine, a country not even in NATO. And if the US wouldn't do it, there's fuck all chance of the UK or France doing it.

So the unpleasant reality is probably that Putin can do what he likes, unless/until he's overthrown from within, or he achieves sufficient of his objectives to be able to claim "mission accomplished".

 

[andyhinch]

Does anyone know what's going on around Chernobyl?

I really wouldn’t worry about it, there is nothing to be gained from blowing it up.

 

[bluejon]

I'm not saying you're wrong in suggesting Putin won't use nukes. He may, or he may not. No-one knows what goes on inside his tiny head.

But I do think you are mistaken if you think he won't use them for fear of it resulting in his death. He would very likely conclude that he could use tactical nukes and that the west would never respond with a nuclear attack against Russia, for fear of starting WW3. And he'd be spot on in that assessment IMO. I cannot conceive of any circumstances where the US would risk tens or hundreds of millions of US lives lost, over a conflict over Ukraine, a country not even in NATO. And if the US wouldn't do it, there's fuck all chance of the UK or France doing it.

So the unpleasant reality is probably that Putin can do what he likes, unless/until he's overthrown from within, or he achieves sufficient of his objectives to be able to claim "mission accomplished".

I'm just hoping that at some point soon there will be an internal tipping point within Russia where those with power around Putin realise he's fucking everything up and remove him. I'm shitting myself if that doesn't happen because he has gone full "fuck-it" mode and I agree, I think he would be up for using nukes.

 

[Blue Maverick]

If he uses nukes in Ukraine why bother taking it over, full of radiation etc, hed have to deal with all that.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I'm not saying you're wrong in suggesting Putin won't use nukes. He may, or he may not. No-one knows what goes on inside his tiny head.

But I do think you are mistaken if you think he won't use them for fear of it resulting in his death. He would very likely conclude that he could use tactical nukes and that the west would never respond with a nuclear attack against Russia, for fear of starting WW3. And he'd be spot on in that assessment IMO. I cannot conceive of any circumstances where the US would risk tens or hundreds of millions of US lives lost, over a conflict over Ukraine, a country not even in NATO. And if the US wouldn't do it, there's fuck all chance of the UK or France doing it.

So the unpleasant reality is probably that Putin can do what he likes, unless/until he's overthrown from within, or he achieves sufficient of his objectives to be able to claim "mission accomplished".

Come on Kremlin insiders, the World needs a Von Stauffenberg (a successful one) type hero.
Do the idiot in and become the most popular person in history!

 

[twosips]

Maybe ive watched too much TV, but I was always presumed that if they *really* needed to, superpowers like the US could just take out someone like Putin pretty quickly. I just sorta presumed they'd have someone on the inside at the Kremlin or some secret services with tech that we don't know about or sumat. lol. I can't be the only one who ends up thinking like this? Maybe its just wishful thinking...

 

[trueblue1972]

Maybe ive watched too much TV, but I was always presumed that if they *really* needed to, superpowers like the US could just take out someone like Putin pretty quickly. I just sorta presumed they'd have someone on the inside at the Kremlin or some secret services with tech that we don't know about or sumat. lol. I can't be the only one who ends up thinking like this? Maybe its just wishful thinking...

Unfortunately we've just has the last Bond film.

 

[BigJoe#1]

Not doubting you at all but..... it doesn't look like they've left their equipment, they look pretty loaded to me.

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing more i'd wish for than to be convinced your telling the truth, but there is so much propaganda on both sides it's hard to know what's accurate or not.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Maybe ive watched too much TV, but I was always presumed that if they *really* needed to, superpowers like the US could just take out someone like Putin pretty quickly. I just sorta presumed they'd have someone on the inside at the Kremlin or some secret services with tech that we don't know about or sumat. lol. I can't be the only one who ends up thinking like this? Maybe its just wishful thinking...

Too many Steven Seagal films. Or maybe he's biding his time in the kitchen.