Russian invasion of Ukraine

Russia have started to blow up TV towers to prevent the Ukrainian President broadcasting and winning the propaganda war.
 
pirate said:
i think that would be the wrong way to go.
however if you are going to appease Putin with territory then letting the rump Ukraine join NATO is imperative.
Its the only thing that would stop Putin regrouping and attacking again
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So we go to war with him for bits of Ukraine that think they should be Russian anyway? We can keep this going, many thousands will die and then there will be a peace. Maybe try to find the peace now.

That's not appeasement and it needs some solid lines to avoid peace in our time type issues, but it's easy to sit in relative safety and suggest others die
 
I'm becoming increasingly certain that China are now the most important player in all this and they along with the Russian people are the only ones who can stop this. Putin is not going to relent from here but he will listen to China. I have faith in China to do the right thing and lean heavily on Russia to stop this madness.

We are entering a new phase in this war now, Putin initially didn't intend on targeting civilian area as he thought it would be a walkover. Given the strong resistance he will need to up the ante and your now seeing them target tv masts and quite obviously destroying city centres. I found this scenario unthinkable at the turn of the year, yet here we are.

At what point do you think the west decide enough is enough and go beyond sanctions?
 
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