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[shilly8903]

last night was a dry run for this

Silencing Black Lives Matter: Priti Patel's anti-protest law - Politics.co.uk

It is cancel culture on a statutory footing, directed against the left.

www.politics.co.uk

Thats bad surely that wont pass through.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Thats bad surely that wont pass through.

they have an 80 seat majority and are a populist government - its nailed on to pass

 

[The perfect fumble]

But policing by consent doesn’t mean people get to do whatever they want-it actually means the police rely on people abiding by the law in order for police to operate. ie that the public consents to the law-otherwise how would 130,000 or so officers ever cope if nobody followed the law?

I agree, the police do rely on people behaving in a law abiding way, that is why the police are at their most ineffective when they are required to suppress protest, which is what they did last night, because it is antithetical to their Peelian principles.

You might reply that in Britain it was the Police on Clapham Common and not, as it would've been the case in so many other countries, the military, because that can turn in to a real shit show.

But that's small comfort for the appalling headlines the coppers are getting today, even the Tories are pissing on you, but I suppose that was to be expected.

I wrote a long post to you last night which was deleted.

In it I explained that I'm only too aware of organisations who hijack protests, piggybacking on popular movements, radicalising them looking to further their own agenda, create flash points to take on the agents of the state (that would be you) whereby the flame is ignited and the masses overthrow their oppressors (whoever they may be) blah, blah, blah.

It's all a f**king pantomime played over and over. But just as coppers are, for the most part, not agents of the state and not a law unto themselves, sometimes they are. And just as demonstrations are often hijacked by organisations with hidden agenda's up to no good, sometimes they're not.

No doubt you've seen injured coppers and had to deal with the aftermath of protest from your side of the fence, on the other side I've seen angry exhausted coppers arrest people willy nilly on trumped up charges, I've seen them put the boot in, I've seen cuts and bruises, broken teeth and worse, I've seen police vans open up and the dogs set on kettled protesters, people with nowhere to go, and I've seen coppers create their own flash points for the purpose of manufacturing arrestable offences.

Of course I'm an old fart now, most of my fond recollections of plod stem from the glorious policing years of the 70s and 80s, I'm sure it's all sunshine and rainbows now but it's amazing how first impressions never leave you

And so it goes on and will do long after you and I are pushing up the daises, meanwhile right wingers run the shop.

 

[worsleyweb]

turns out the red haired female who seemed delighted to be arrested is a left wing activist actress who manged to make it all about her.

who would have thought it!

 

[Mike Cledford]

turns out the red haired female who seemed delighted to be arrested is a left wing activist actress who manged to make it all about her.

Bloody hell. Vanessa Regrave isn’t still at it?

 

[Blue Mist]

Someone with an ulterior motive, I suspect. It’s not justification for the way the police handled it last night.

I have been told for over a year where I can go, what I can do and who I can meet. It has been done to keep people alive at a time of the worlds worst ever pandemic. People have not even been allowed to attend a hospital to see a dying relative or go to the funeral of a loved one so why should people think they have any right to gather en masse because someone they did not know and had never met has died ?
The police are put in a difficult situation every day of the week and have to make decisions. There will always be people ready to slag them off no matter what they do.

 

[Blue Mist]

Exactly, the Met should have sat down with the organisers to plan an orderly vigil. It's clear that emotions are running very high in London after Sarah's murder with regard to safety on the streets, I'm sure that with a degree of cooperation the more extreme agitators could have been kept away from the vigil.

and then sat down with the nurses and planned their demonstration closely followed by Piers Corbyn and...... where do we say enough is enough ? Why are they allowed to hold a vigil and yet Corbyn isn't ?

 

[aguero93:20]

I have been told for over a year where I can go, what I can do and who I can meet.

I thought they were giving you the ankle bracelet?

 

[Claytop]

turns out the red haired female who seemed delighted to be arrested is a left wing activist actress who manged to make it all about her.

That’s all it was about for her..



If that’s a legit account I should add.

 

[inbetween]

I have been told for over a year where I can go, what I can do and who I can meet. It has been done to keep people alive at a time of the worlds worst ever pandemic. People have not even been allowed to attend a hospital to see a dying relative or go to the funeral of a loved one so why should people think they have any right to gather en masse because someone they did not know and had never met has died ?
The police are put in a difficult situation every day of the week and have to make decisions. There will always be people ready to slag them off no matter what they do.

I have a friend who works on the 999 lines and we spoke on Zoom a few weeks ago about her job and she said the last year has been the worst, not just for the type of calls but rather because people are so abusive and anti-police.

I don't know why that is but the endless stream of political bombardment has to be responsible. Both the right and left criticise the police to death and it's because the police have the duty of dealing with an incident regardless of political view.

That's what happened in this incident, the Police dealt with an illegal protest in the only way possible and people are criticising them for it. If they aren't allowed to do their job then by the same argument why should they shoot terrorists in case people disagree or why should they take down muggers given they might hurt them....?

Last night we saw videos of young women demanding men be respectful whilst chanting f*ck the police, the irony and hypocrisy is just startling really. The bad behaviour of these people though will be suppressed, we won't hear a thing about it whilst the real story will yet again be police brutality.