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karen7 said:
They got a dozen clearly offside goals given to them and got away with many leg breakers,our players have been sent off for much less,they have protection no-one else has,you need to watch the games more closely if you don't see that
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You’re getting last year mixed up with the season before
 
karen7 said:
It's the same every year,i watch all their games on the tv and when the pundits and viewers sll agree it's offside it's offside,they would never have got to 2nd if they were reffed like everyone else
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Not really. The year before last they scored many offside goals whilst rojo getting away with two footers. Don’t recall many last year and if asked I’m sure you couldn’t give many examples. Gone are the days of refs being scared to ref them. That’s why they can’t win a title.
 
bluesteel said:
How many managers do you think would have got 81 points with the squad and injuries they had last year? Agree on the awful football though.
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Is this a bad joke? He inherited a squad that was level on points with his and on the ascendancy while ours was aging and declining and on the way down. They beat us at the Eitihad, won the FA cup and looked like they were on their way to another level as Rasfhord and Martial got a season under their belts.

Instead, he spent 350m GBP on pure dross (if the argument is that he has a poor squad) or he's failed to get the most out of his players (objectively true in the cases of Sanchez, Rashford, Pogba, and Mikhitayran who's since left) as they look/ed like a shadow of what they are under other managers.

He has the team with the highest collective wage in the history of English football and just got beaten to the only realistic trophy they could have gotten last year by Conte (who's working with a fraction of the budget). Was 19 points off Guardiola who spent a similar amount and has us playing on 5 levels higher. And ofcourse ended 6th the previous season behind a bunch of managers who were working with a much smaller budget.

Klopp has finally been allowed to spend this summer and I'll be curious to see if he has Liverpool catapult above United in the table. Already got Liverpool to the Champions League final with an absolute shambles of a squad while Mourinho went out, comprehensively beaten by an abysmal Seville team in the first knockout stage.
 
BlueDeadHead said:
Most?
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Odd post, isn't it? Given his starting point in 2016, the budget he had, the players he has at his disposal, I'd venture that Pochettino, Klopp, Zidane, Simone, Enrique, Conte, Sarri, Allegri, or pretty much any semi-competent manager would have gotten the 2018 United to an 85 point finish or thereabouts.

The question is how on earth he's managed to end trophyless with everything at his disposal, while not putting up a title challenge and playing football so bad that their supporters are booing him.
 
Mr.Feeny said:
Odd post, isn't it? Given his starting point in 2016, the budget he had, the players he has at his disposal, I'd venture that Pochettino, Klopp, Zidane, Simone, Enrique, Conte, Sarri, Allegri, or pretty much any semi-competent manager would have gotten the 2018 United to an 85 point finish or thereabouts.

The question is how on earth he's managed to end trophyless with everything at his disposal, while not putting up a title challenge and playing football so bad that their supporters are booing him.
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Do you think he is envious of the apparent free reign Pep has been given to choose targets etc.?
Seems that Ed W. keeps him in his place regarding spend hence he seems to almost delight in player failures and blame lack of funds.
 
SilverFox2 said:
Do you think he is envious of the apparent free reign Pep has been given to choose targets etc.?
Seems that Ed W. keeps him in his place regarding spend hence he seems to almost delight in player failures and blame lack of funds.
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The truth is that we don't know how much free reign either manager has. By all accounts, he had 7 names on his target list last summer and got 6 of them with the exception of Perisic.

He brought in his buddy,Ibrahimovic. He brought in several players from Portuguese clubs who don't seem to fit in. Lindolf at 39 million is an absolutely tragic signing.

No manager on the planet gets every player he wants. Sir Alex dealt with issues regarding this in the summer of 98 as Martin Edwards tried to sign Harton for them instead of Yorke and but for Ferguson threatening to leave, would have done so.

Pep wanted Sanchez and didn't get him because we have a wage structure that we can't break and therefore can't afford to pay him as much as United could. So Pep "lost" Sanchez to Mourinho, and yet never opened his mouth and talked.

He wanted VVD last January but our board decided that 75 was exorbitant so he didn't get him.
He wanted Fred or Jorginho and got neither because Mourinho got one and Sarri got the other. He hasn't complained. Even knowing that we have no cover for Fernandinho.

I've never seen a manager whinge and cry as much as Jose Mourinho does. About anything. His MO is to deflect blame and throw everyone else under the bus. If he's envious of anything, it's the fact that his arch nemesis has contructed a juggernaut and is putting him to the sword while he languishes behind, unable to get the best out of his own players or the players that he's getting at the expense of Pep, thanks to his board and Woodward (Alexis Sanxhez)
 
Le Peg is due a major explosion. Sadly, he's likely to be beyond keeping.

On the bright side, watching the explosion will be great fun - and there's every chance that prolonged carnage will see the Scum finish outside the top 4.

Get your popcorn ready, City fans!
 
Mr.Feeny said:
Odd post, isn't it? Given his starting point in 2016, the budget he had, the players he has at his disposal, I'd venture that Pochettino, Klopp, Zidane, Simone, Enrique, Conte, Sarri, Allegri, or pretty much any semi-competent manager would have gotten the 2018 United to an 85 point finish or thereabouts.

The question is how on earth he's managed to end trophyless with everything at his disposal, while not putting up a title challenge and playing football so bad that their supporters are booing him.
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Klopp and Pochettino got less points with better squads, am not talking about his starting point never mentioned it, and you say my post is odd.... 85 points with that squad, oh dear
 
Because I'm a city fan and I like Zoolander.

I don't want Mourinho to stay because they won't get better than him. He also just got 81 points with a shit squad, which worries me.

Those who want him to stay are idiots, because if and when they get the right players in, they'll challenge us. I'd rather they got someone on Moyes level.

But you crack on pretending he's useless.
 
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bluesteel said:
Because I'm a city fan and I like Zoolander.

I don't want Mourinho to stay because they won't get better than him. He also just got 81 points with a shit squad, which worries me.

Those who want him to stay are idiots, because if and when they get the right players in, they'll challenge us. I'd rather they got someone on Moyes level.

But you crack on pretending he's useless.
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You worry too much.
 
I know. I'm not worrying yet about that lot though. The worse they are the happier I am though, so hopefully they'll get Giggs, Neville or Scholes.
 
bluesteel said:
Because I'm a city fan and I like Zoolander.

I don't want Mourinho to stay because they won't get better than him. He also just got 81 points with a shit squad, which worries me.

Those who want him to stay are idiots, because if and when they get the right players in, they'll challenge us. I'd rather they got someone on Moyes level.

But you crack on pretending he's useless.
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Mou is actually very dangerous - provided that he's in complete control.

If he doesn't get his way with signings, he'll self-destruct - blaming players, firing popular team doctors for no reason, aggressively challenging ownership in the press, etc.

In short - Mou is a huge liability for ManU. He's going to undermine the team, and will upset players and ownership alike. Why? Because ManU aren't purchasing the players he wants.

ManU is satisfied with finishing top-4 - Mou isn't satisfied unless challenging for the title. It's an explosive mix.
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Probably Mou is fired; probably on his way out, Mou damages ManU - maybe they won't even finish top 4.
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This whole "save our Peg" thread is tongue-in-cheek - in spite of Mou's potential brilliance given his way - I can't think of a worse manager for ManU this season. Their squad is terrible (relatively speaking) - Mou knows this and is adamantly unhappy with signings - the best thing that could possibly happen, IMO, for ManU, is that Woodward is sacked. As for Mou - he's (probably) a top manager if the club supports him, in personnel decisions and signings - but perhaps not given his recent inability to man-manage.

If somehow Mou survives this seaon, ManU will be cursed with boring, defensive, non-attacking, bus-parking football - another reason to "save our Peg."
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So yeah, I'm all in with the ironic "save our Peg" - which, perhaps with even more irony, is something I'm actually in huge favor (favour? :-)) of.
 
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bluesteel said:
Because I'm a city fan and I like Zoolander.

I don't want Mourinho to stay because they won't get better than him. He also just got 81 points with a shit squad, which worries me.

Those who want him to stay are idiots, because if and when they get the right players in, they'll challenge us. I'd rather they got someone on Moyes level.

But you crack on pretending he's useless.
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You're not very good at this bluemoon humour stuff mate.
 
bluesteel said:
Klopp and Pochettino got less points with better squads, am not talking about his starting point never mentioned it, and you say my post is odd.... 85 points with that squad, oh dear
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No, they got what they did on a fraction of the budget. Klopp leas his dross to the UCL title. Yeah, your post is most certainly odd.
 
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