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taleofbluehalves said:
I dunno if there’s a big cost to get rid, Utd will hang on unless top 4 is a serious doubt in my opinion.
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liverpool
city
spurs
chelsea

all will be top 4 this season and no room for united even looking at the start and squad united have even top 6 is a big ask
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
There are some who are incredibly loyal to him considering the shit football he serves up. I’m not sure why.
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Because his acolytes in the media have convinced people that Woodward (& by definition the Glazers) are the real problem. That's the same Woodward & Glazer family that hired Moyes & van Gaal so you can see where they're coming from.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Because his acolytes in the media have convinced people that Woodward (& by definition the Glazers) are the real problem. That's the same Woodward & Glazer family that hired Moyes & van Gaal so you can see where they're coming from.
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Woodward and the Glazers are simply the easy target for the hindsight brigade.

It was actually Ferguson who recommended Moyes and the fans were fully behind the appointment with 'The Chosen One' banner being displayed at the Swamp. When they finally realised that emulating Ferguson was an impossibility they wanted a continental manager with experience of winning, they went for Van Gaal who's CV speaks for itself and he was arguably the hottest property in management after impressing at the World Cup. Both of these managers were backed in the transfer market and Van Gaal for all the criticism he gets, won the FA Cup and finished level on points with us before being sacked.

United fans were unhappy with Van Gaal's style of play and they demanded a response to us getting Pep and Woodward delivered them the stand-out name in football management after Pep. The fans were happy, the media were saying how scared Pep must be and praising the appointment. Again Mourinho has been heavily backed in the transfer window.

The problem is that it doesn't matter what Woodward or the Glazers do, they will always be the scapegoat when things take a turn at that club. The more they try to appease their fans with short-term thinking, the more damage they will do in the long run.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Woodward and the Glazers are simply the easy target for the hindsight brigade.

It was actually Ferguson who recommended Moyes and the fans were fully behind the appointment with 'The Chosen One' banner being displayed at the Swamp. When they finally realised that emulating Ferguson was an impossibility they wanted a continental manager with experience of winning, they went for Van Gaal who's CV speaks for itself and he was arguably the hottest property in management after impressing at the World Cup. Both of these managers were backed in the transfer market and Van Gaal for all the criticism he gets, won the FA Cup and finished level on points with us before being sacked.

United fans were unhappy with Van Gaal's style of play and they demanded a response to us getting Pep and Woodward delivered them the stand-out name in football management after Pep. The fans were happy, the media were saying how scared Pep must be and praising the appointment. Again Mourinho has been heavily backed in the transfer window.

The problem is that it doesn't matter what Woodward or the Glazers do, they will always be the scapegoat when things take a turn at that club. The more they try to appease their fans with short-term thinking, the more damage they will do in the long run.
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Nail on head. It's all short-term with them. Keeping them in the top 4/CL so the money keeps rolling in is far more important to them than winning things. If they finish outside the top four then Jose will go. Even if a manager was dismantling the team and putting a new long-term strategy in place, finishing 5th might see him sacked.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Woodward and the Glazers are simply the easy target for the hindsight brigade.

It was actually Ferguson who recommended Moyes and the fans were fully behind the appointment with 'The Chosen One' banner being displayed at the Swamp. When they finally realised that emulating Ferguson was an impossibility they wanted a continental manager with experience of winning, they went for Van Gaal who's CV speaks for itself and he was arguably the hottest property in management after impressing at the World Cup. Both of these managers were backed in the transfer market and Van Gaal for all the criticism he gets, won the FA Cup and finished level on points with us before being sacked.

United fans were unhappy with Van Gaal's style of play and they demanded a response to us getting Pep and Woodward delivered them the stand-out name in football management after Pep. The fans were happy, the media were saying how scared Pep must be and praising the appointment. Again Mourinho has been heavily backed in the transfer window.

The problem is that it doesn't matter what Woodward or the Glazers do, they will always be the scapegoat when things take a turn at that club. The more they try to appease their fans with short-term thinking, the more damage they will do in the long run.
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Fancy using facts to substantiate an argument
 
M18CTID said:
Sadly, I think we might be approaching the endgame on this but a seeming lack of any realistic replacement - coupled with the fact that no-one running that club seems to have even the tiniest modicum of knwledge about the footballing side of things - gives me a glimmer of hope that Maureen might be safe to carry on pulling the wool over their eyes, and this could run for a few more months yet.
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Either way it appears to be a win win.
Keep Peg; we all know how that's working out.
Replace with mid quality manager;
More unrest and expenditure and kills stone dead the myth that the rags are not like other clubs who don't stick by their manager's.
The rags are a shambles and it doesn't look like is changing any time soon.
 
1961_vintage said:
Just to maintain a bit of perspective amongst the hysteria, Peg is actually only 4 points behind City which is a huge improvement compared to being 19 points behind just 3 months ago.
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Just to put perspective on those 4 points. They’ve only played 3 games.
They are 6 points off the top.
They were 19 points behind after 38 games. On current form they could be that far behind after 9 games.
 
If we accept that he's going sometime in the near future his replacement would either be another 'big' name in the hope that he can suddenly get game changing improved performances from the existing squad plus maybe one or two new faces or alternatively build for the future by appointing someone to do a long term job no matter that there may be some fallow seasons before the experiment can work.
If they choose the latter option there is a wish among old school Reds to try to find a Manager like Pep was at Barcelona or Wenger in his early days at Arsenal filling the team with a few retained players from previous regimes plus some from their academy plus some promising young players from elsewhere.
This plan may or may not bring long term success but the diehard fans seem ready to give it a go rather than just getting in another flavour of the month will spend a fortune on egotistical players with Machiavellian Agents who take a huge wedge of cash for very little return.
Some of the diehards are currently banking on Michael Carrick and ex U18's Manager Kieran McKenna to build a new team to be proud of. They seem to have given up on Giggsy, Neville and the other slapdicks from that clique.
 
Deepest Blue said:
If we accept that he's going sometime in the near future his replacement would either be another 'big' name in the hope that he can suddenly get game changing improved performances from the existing squad plus maybe one or two new faces or alternatively build for the future by appointing someone to do a long term job no matter that there may be some fallow seasons before the experiment can work.
If they choose the latter option there is a wish among old school Reds to try to find a Manager like Pep was at Barcelona or Wenger in his early days at Arsenal filling the team with a few retained players from previous regimes plus some from their academy plus some promising young players from elsewhere.
This plan may or may not bring long term success but the diehard fans seem ready to give it a go rather than just getting in another flavour of the month will spend a fortune on egotistical players with Machiavellian Agents who take a huge wedge of cash for very little return.
Some of the diehards are currently banking on Michael Carrick and ex U18's Manager Kieran McKenna to build a new team to be proud of. They seem to have given up on Giggsy, Neville and the other slapdicks from that clique.
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Doesn't matter what they do. It's a shambles at all levels. There would be more success in rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
 
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