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How interesting.

1.On cruise ship days they employ more staff, staff who wouldn't have been employed otherwise. Benefit.
2. The money that comes in from cruise ship days helps keep prices down during the rest of the year. Benefit.
3. Local craft firms, and its a heavily craft led economy, sell more items. Meaning they can pay wages. To people who work for them. Who produce more stuff. And maybe take more staff on. Benefit.
4. This also helps keep old traditions alive as well. Benefit.

Tourism comes in many forms though...if you buy Orcadian whisky from Amazon...then you are an Internet tourist and help keep the economy flowing on the islands. Money in equals secure jobs, secure jobs eequal confidence and increased spending. Big benefits.

It's a very good business model and one that has worked all over the world.

I could tell you about a mate of mine in Shetland who has a rather nice business dealing with wool, wool he gets from his sheep, wool that is quire popular around the world, wool that has provided an income to himself and the 20 odd people involved in the process. Some of which used to be unemployed due to fishing going down the pan. But I won't. I mean, it's obviously not going to help you understand or indeed change your mind.
This cruise ship example you keep using is a bit pointless and irrelevant to the overall debate really as its a rather niche and specific example of tourism.

And certainly you're reference to someone buying Orcadian whisky off Amazon as a form of "tourism" is borderline bizarre.

Admittedly those people occasionally pouring off cruise ships do provide a temporary injection of cash and I'll even acknowledge that those cruise ship tourists aren't directly responsible for the predominant economic downside of tourism, that obviously being the huge increase in the cost of local accommodation thanks to the demand for holiday home/holiday lets.

Although the cruise ship visitors do still make a significant contribution to the many other peripheral socio-economic downsides of tourism in terms of the pressure and demand they place on local public services and infrastructure and the associated additional costs to the local tax payers.

BUT, even with your example of the cruise ship tourists the fact remains that the vast proportion of any money they do spend still goes directly into the pockets of the tourism business owners, the few crumbs that any employees in those businesses get go no way at all toward making up for the NET socio-economic disadvantages they suffer from as a result of wider tourism.

I admire your self confidence in attempting to join the debate even though you’ve clearly demonstrated a fundamental lack of understanding of even the most basic economic principles and laws of supply and demand if you genuinely believe that tourists spending in an economy somehow "keeps prices down"... I have to inform you the very opposite happens.
 
You gave up because you know I'm right.

No shame in admitting it mate.
Sorry to but into your debate, but imo I think there are pros and cons to all tourism. People on holiday definitely spend more on gifts and eating out. Look at the Lakes, and the small towns there, like Ambleside, Keswick and Windermere all stuffed full of pubs, restaurants and all sorts of shops that certainly wouldnt be there but for tourism.

But without tourism housing would definitely be much cheaper and affordable especially for young people getting on the housing ladder.

Also, the local economy would undoubtedly be worse off as there wouldnt be the employment available. What is there to do job wise in the Lakes without tourism? Just farming and that co exists already alongside the tourism. I dont think you can allow for remote working, as there isnt the internet connectivity in large areas of the lakes to support this yet, same as many other remote rural areas.

You can apply the above logic to any tourist area to some degree.
 
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Possibly because some people vote for a government not solely based on whether they’ll personally be very slightly richer or poorer if they win?
Isn’t that what has just happened. According to the forecasters the budget is going to make +/- half of 1% change in living standards over the next few years. Those who thought voting for any particular party was going to make a change in their individual circumstances was seriously delusional.
 
Possibly because some people vote for a government not solely based on whether they’ll personally be very slightly richer or poorer if they win?
Voting for me was about those parts of the country that suffer depravation at the level of no home, food banks, charity clothing. etc.
Through 14 years of conservative government the situation got worse.
The withdrawal of the WFP isn’t what I expected from the Labour Party while M.P.’s keep there WFA it could have been done so much better, thousands spent on the cabinets clothing while poor people go to the local charity shop
Striving against poverty who do we vote for ? it’s not Farage.
 
Sorry to but into your debate, but imo I think there are pros and cons to all tourism. People on holiday definitely spend more on gifts and eating out. Look at the Lakes, and the small towns there, like Ambleside, Keswick and Windermere all stuffed full of pubs, restaurants and all sorts of shops that certainly wouldnt be there but for tourism.

But without tourism housing would definitely be much cheaper and affordable especially for young people getting on the housing ladder.

Also, the local economy would undoubtedly be worse off as there wouldnt be the employment available. What is there to do job wise in the Lakes without tourism? Just farming and that co exists already alongside the tourism. I dont think you can allow for remote working, as there isnt the internet connectivity in large areas of the lakes to support this yet, same as many other remote rural areas.

You can apply the above logic to any tourist area to some degree.
Businesses in the Lake District struggle in finding staff to employ
 
We have a holiday rental here in Wales and if we dont reach a rental figure of 50% occupancy we will get stung for 150% of the council tax. In laymans terms that will be between £5,500 to £7,500 per annum, the average rental doesn't make that...................Welcome to Wales, vote Labour and have a really lovely holiday. At our expense.
my heart bleeds for you. not. people making money out of property is part of what's driven house prices to the point of being unaffordable for youngsters of today. nobody needs two houses. end of.
 
my heart bleeds for you. not. people making money out of property is part of what's driven house prices to the point of being unaffordable for youngsters of today. nobody needs two houses. end of.
Quite agree and cant argue, it has driven prices up and I don't need a second property, I want one. I want one because it's part of my pension pot and the system allows me and many others to do it.
 

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