Excellent as I could do with some Ryanair tokens this summer shortly after we win the Nations league as a precursor to our Nations cup win at Wembley in 2020....Foden getting the winner.

It’s a bit early to be sniffing glue, but fair play to you. :)
 
>> He should stick with decission. Thems the rules. It wasn't a clear and obvious error either.
And yet video replay wasn't available. How on earth should the onfield ref muster the audacity to completely disregard the replay booth when they had ample replays available to them.

I for one, absolutely agree that Otters hand ball is a penalty - on the basis that that's the way that the game is called - at the same time I absolutely agree that Otter's hand ball was not intentional.

The rules of the game need to be updated.
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>> 2nd, offside takes presidente as that took place first.
Implicitly claiming that you're more knowledgeable than the professional referees on the field... well, I rather doubt that you're correct.

I’m not sure you necessarily understand the rules then, mate. Hand ball has to be deliberate for it to be considered an offence.

If you don’t think Otamendi was deliberately seeking an advantage by having his arm in the position it was in, then by the rules of the game, you don’t think it should be a pen.
 
I’m not sure you necessarily understand the rules then, mate. Hand ball has to be deliberate for it to be considered an offence.

If you don’t think Otamendi was deliberately seeking an advantage by having his arm in the position it was in, then by the rules of the game, you don’t think it should be a pen.
Seems to be a bit confused...
 
You may mock, however do enjoy Scotlands 3rd place play off match against the Isle of Man in the Doris McTwee memorial curling cup in Stranraer whislt we give those bloody foreigners a jolly good seeing too!

I have more chance being asked to be a mod on here than you have of giving anyone a seeing to. Foreign or otherwise.

And leave Doris out of this. Lovely woman and saucy minx.
 
Had the referee given the penalty of his own volition, it would have been bad, yes, but it would not have been quite so bad say as Dowd (Liverpool) or Clattenburg (Spurs). What's genuinely worrying, however, is that there is a room full of experts who can determine that the referee's original decision was clearly wrong. That I find deeply disconcerting.
 
Just watching the re-run and there was a foul on Sterling after 5 minutes that was given but no card. It was almost identical to the one Otamendi got his second yellow for.

And how Caligiuri, who wasn't captain, didn't get carded for constantly being in the ref's face I'll never know. Made Rooney look discreet.
Makes no difference whether he’s the captain or not. They have no more right to talk to the ref on behalf of their teammates than anyone else.
...according to what I vaguely remember from my 1980 Roy of the Rovers Annual’s ‘You’re the ref’ section.
 
I had a look on the RAWK CL thread this morning.

Fuck - but they really hate us

What is piss funny is that they scream that nobody should be bothered or care about us - especially them as they are a proper club with history

And they make these comments in pages and pages of bitter posts
Fuck `em mc.
Lets go out and win the PL again this season and give the arrogant twats something to really cry about.
 
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This is taken from the rule book.....The VAR will only intervene if he thinks the referee has missed a direct red card offence, not a yellow or second yellow. However, there are three instances when the VAR can advise a referee to issue a caution. 1) If, on reviewing a penalty it turns out there is simulation. 2) If, on reviewing an awarded goal, it turns out a player has deliberately handled the ball to score. 3) If, in dismissing a player, it is proved they have been provoked into retaliating, the player who initiated the incident could get booked.
i bow to your knowledge
 
Great comeback. A lot was stacked against us last night but the lads pulled through. Loved Zinchenkos reaction to Leroy’s free kick & from one camera angle it looked like Danilo was the first up in the bench celebrating Sterling’s winner. Says so much about our team spirit & togetherness. A small step closer to the quad.....Bring on Sunday
 
Otamendi committed a handball. He tried to get his arm out of the way but didn’t succeed. If the exact same happened to us at the other end of the pitch we’d be screaming for a penalty. Anyone who argues differently is an out and out happy clapper.

And anyone who denies VAR procedure was flawed to fcuk is a contrary arsehole.
 
I actually believe VAR will be prove to be a benefit but serious wrinkles need to be ironed out. In particular we need clarity and CONSISTENCY on:

- The circumstances when it can be invoked: clear and obvious errors or marginal decisions?
- The sanction (if any) for players calling for VAR?
- Whose decision is final?

The Ota penalty was patently in the debatable rather than obvious category. Quite a few on here thought it was an offence under the rules. Lots thought it wasn’t. Anybody saying it was clear cut is romancing. Had the ref given it first time, it would have been easier to stomach than awarding it through an invalid procedure.

Will UEFA be big enough to admit that, in hindsight, it was invalid? Will they fcuk as like.
 
So just reading Mark Halsey’s view On the incident in the paper at work

He says no way was the handball deliberate and he would not have given it
 
How can it possibly be deliberate hand ball if hes moving his hand away. Incredible.

Almost as bad as that one a few years back, I forget his name but he hits a snapshot a few yards away from Micah Richards and it bounces up and hits his thigh then his arm. Pen given. I couldn't believe it.

EDIT: lol, found it, https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/16743259

Should I be surprised.

Making me angry thinking about it now.
 

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