Schalke post match thread

Some of the worst crowd violence I've seen at a City game in years, especially during Half Time on the neutral concourse.
The bloke in front of me was hit by a coin thrown by one of his fellow blues in the amin away section, and the nastiness persisted throughout the 2nd half, especially after Sane's goal.
Some questionable refereeing, but plenty of pissed -up aggressive bellends supporting City.
 
The pull on Stones Shirt and the handball in the box against Newport were far more blatant than either of last nights "penalties" and we got nowt. Hopefully saving our luck for some finals.
 
vmsuhail said:
It's impossible for VAR to get the 50-50 decisions right. Yesterday, it went against us, but we got lucky as we were playing against a poor side. I'm still confident VAR would eliminate those Liverpool 2 yard offside goals and blatant dives. The system will get faster and better in future, we'll just have to get along with some poor decisions for a while.
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Naive.
 
Scaring Europe to Death said:
Some of the worst crowd violence I've seen at a City game in years, especially during Half Time on the neutral concourse.
The bloke in front of me was hit by a coin thrown by one of his fellow blues in the amin away section, and the nastiness persisted throughout the 2nd half, especially after Sane's goal.
Some questionable refereeing, but plenty of pissed -up aggressive bellends supporting City.
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I watched a couple of posted videos of some of them before the match. Why they want to show themselves being complete nobs is beyond me.
 
The biggest worry about last night, wasn't VAR or UEFA's bent ways, we already know this. It was Super Kev looking like ordinary Kev again :( I think this last injury has really hit him hard.
 
blue ranger said:
The ref wasn’t corrupt. He was just poor.
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But was he really?
Both pens were pens, according to rules, the red card was legit, and he did let play go on for our first goal, did NOT blow the whistle on Raheem for the finishing goal, which wouldn't have surprised me HAD he done it. If anything up until their first penalty, I thought he was very kind on us.

We did not beat Schalke in spite of the referee, but in spite of us playing rather poorly. A good win, and I think we will batter them at the ETIHAD.

But first let's destroy Sarri and Chelsea, and bring home the first trophy of the year.
 
I don't get how people can say the first one was a pen. Just because it hit his arm doesn't mean its a pen.
The ball hits players arms all the time. If we get in the culture of giving free kicks and pens for things like this the games ruined.
That last night was never ever deliberate handball.
 
lloydy said:
Dippers would!
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And a couple more just in case they missed the first two. The fact that VAR took so long is a clear indication that there is serious doubt. That should be the end of it, but they were looking with their Uefa microscopes in the faintest hope that they could convince the world it was a pen, and they think they found enough! The question I would pose is whatever decision is reached whether it was a pen or not, would the same decision apply at both ends. My answer would be no it wouldn't! They find sufficient video frames to come up with a negative! Uefa do not like Manchester City. We don't get equal treatment from the organisation nor their appointed referees. Ever since we got into the competition there is a list of questionable decisions as long as yer arm, and Uefa, like our own FArce, hide behind their rule book - which they interpret in a variety of ways.
 
ctid1894 said:
You’re just as fucking thick and stupid as the BT presenter if you believed those comments. Listen to the undertone of the very first comments by Pep in that interview, it wasn’t even subtle how he’s taking the piss. He can’t just come out and say UEFA you’re a set of cheating corrupt twats because he’ll get banned.
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He could have said also that in his OPINION they were not.
 
blue ranger said:
Genuinely think some city fans need to get over this Uefa are against us bollocks. It’s boring now. VAR didn’t work great for Athletico Madrid last night. Is it against them too?
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Those decisions were absolutely bang on in the other game. VAR at its best there
 
SWP's back said:
I know it was never a foul, but if they were trying to fuck us, they could have given it.

If you really believe it’s wumming to suggest there maybe isn’t a conspiracy against us then fair enough but ‘wow’.
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As you say, I'm not sure the VAR decisions last night were necessarily anti-City, but they could definitely be considered as contentious.

I think last night highlighted the possibility for someone behind the scenes to call the shots to make the best 'story' possible about a match. A better story gives more social media mentions, more column inches, more TV coverage, more free advertising.

The decisions to make it 1-1, 2-1 and 2-3 all made the match more 'interesting'. Felt a bit like wrestling watching it though. Enjoyable but at times like what happened on the pitch was somewhat insignificant when an invisible person can order a 5050 to go the other way.

Fortunately, the quality of Sane, Ederson and Sterling forced the narrative to change. Huge character to come back and win under the circumstances.

On VAR, I think the intended use: to correct clear and obvious errors, is fair. But when it's taking 5 minutes to reach a final decision, it's clear and obvious that the original decision was not clearly and obviously wrong.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Jermaine Thingy said he'd watched the Atletico game, non of the kind of fouls Fernandinho made, were given, at all & if there was a 'clear line' where Fernandinho knows he will be punished for that offence, it won't happen.

City would have played in 5,6,7,8 games where that's happened & nothing has been given.

Walton's response: " HE GIVES HIS DECISIONS, IN THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME HE IS WATCHING AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME".

So there we have it.

The handball, that wasn't a handball at the weekend, is a handball tonight, the offside, isn't an offside tonight, but can bevm tomorrow night, & the pull by Fernandinho, is a foul tonight: "in the context of the game he is watching".

So that's how refs think & they think that's ok And refs are operating v.a.r.

V.a.r. is going to be fucking great for us, we can tell by how much it has helped us so far.
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That means it is relative to each situation /game and means refs can interpret the laws the way they want all on the basis of context. So some will be legalist and others will be relativist . Nothing has changed with VAR because the ref is still king
 
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