yesterday.....took my son to play for his school side(st bernadettes,whitefield)....opposing side (park view,prestwich),where one of their lads had a huge throw for his age.....their manager AND parents shouting "sling it long/ hurl it/as far as you can",at every opportunity....disgusted kids are encouraged to do this at such a young age.....OH, AND CHEERS PULIS YOU PRICK.....
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Skip Donoghue
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football at an early age should be about learning and development but unfortunately this is not always the case, it is no wonder we are miles behind the likes of Spain when it comes to producing home grown players and it is due in part to the ignorance of teachers, parents and poor coaching,
we should be producing world class players in abundance with the amount of football that is played in this country but we are not and it all stems from grass roots bad habits like lump it forward and long throws etc no kid can benefit in anyway from such methods
this about sums up school and junior football, and it is due to the lack of decent coaches around and the win at all costs mentality of some teachers/coachesriley347 said:yesterday.....took my son to play for his school side(st bernadettes,whitefield)....opposing side (park view,prestwich),where one of their lads had a huge throw for his age.....their manager AND parents shouting "sling it long/ hurl it/as far as you can",at every opportunity....disgusted kids are encouraged to do this at such a young age.....OH, AND CHEERS PULIS YOU PRICK.....
football at an early age should be about learning and development but unfortunately this is not always the case, it is no wonder we are miles behind the likes of Spain when it comes to producing home grown players and it is due in part to the ignorance of teachers, parents and poor coaching,
we should be producing world class players in abundance with the amount of football that is played in this country but we are not and it all stems from grass roots bad habits like lump it forward and long throws etc no kid can benefit in anyway from such methods
LCBblue
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I quit playing for my school at the beginning of this year - poor standard of football, which consists of mostly long balls, big throws etc etc, the midfield was by-passed every game and it was hardly enjoyable, despite us winning most of our games.
I don't miss playing for school. How old is your son?
I quit playing for my school at the beginning of this year - poor standard of football, which consists of mostly long balls, big throws etc etc, the midfield was by-passed every game and it was hardly enjoyable, despite us winning most of our games.
I don't miss playing for school. How old is your son?
Re: shool match .....
nothing wrong in that
when you have a team of kids playing football you dont need to over kill them with things like keeping the ball down on the pitch pass and move 2 touch
there is so much for kids to learn about football you forget about having fun
playing the game
only about 1 in 1000 make it to the next level and sometime you have to stand out from the rest and if you got something why not use it
nothing wrong in that
when you have a team of kids playing football you dont need to over kill them with things like keeping the ball down on the pitch pass and move 2 touch
there is so much for kids to learn about football you forget about having fun
playing the game
only about 1 in 1000 make it to the next level and sometime you have to stand out from the rest and if you got something why not use it
Clubber
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I agree that the main thig to do is enjoy it. As long as the kids playing had a smile on their faces (I never doo when i play, but i am still enjoying it) then what is the problem.
I understand that everyone want to do tricks and skills, but sometimes the game isn't about that.
ancoats said:nothing wrong in that
when you have a team of kids playing football you dont need to over kill them with things like keeping the ball down on the pitch pass and move 2 touch
there is so much for kids to learn about football you forget about having fun
playing the game
only about 1 in 1000 make it to the next level and sometime you have to stand out from the rest and if you got something why not use it
I agree that the main thig to do is enjoy it. As long as the kids playing had a smile on their faces (I never doo when i play, but i am still enjoying it) then what is the problem.
I understand that everyone want to do tricks and skills, but sometimes the game isn't about that.
Skip Donoghue
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Re: shool match .....
i agree that not all kids are of the same level and coaches can over complicate things but the basics are the basics like letting the ball do the work and working hard and give 100% all of the time etc,
if these principles are not instilled in kids at an early age they will not develop into an average player never mind a top player, this is where coaches/teachers need to take some responsibility and stop thinking about the now and try to develop there team and players for the future
there is nothing better in my opinion than seeing a an under9/10/11 team try to play the game in the right way and try to move the ball around no matter the result
results should not start to matter in football until at least under 12/13 level this is when the winning mentality should be instilled and if kids have been given the basics in football these results will take care of themselves
ancoats said:nothing wrong in that
when you have a team of kids playing football you dont need to over kill them with things like keeping the ball down on the pitch pass and move 2 touch
there is so much for kids to learn about football you forget about having fun
playing the game
only about 1 in 1000 make it to the next level and sometime you have to stand out from the rest and if you got something why not use it
i agree that not all kids are of the same level and coaches can over complicate things but the basics are the basics like letting the ball do the work and working hard and give 100% all of the time etc,
if these principles are not instilled in kids at an early age they will not develop into an average player never mind a top player, this is where coaches/teachers need to take some responsibility and stop thinking about the now and try to develop there team and players for the future
there is nothing better in my opinion than seeing a an under9/10/11 team try to play the game in the right way and try to move the ball around no matter the result
results should not start to matter in football until at least under 12/13 level this is when the winning mentality should be instilled and if kids have been given the basics in football these results will take care of themselves
Re: shool match .....
i dont think we are miles behind the likes of Spain with youth football
most of our clubs like the man city youth setup is still 1 of the best
the thing is about them being given a chance at club level
we have to many inported players from spain france italy the english football leagues
we should have a setup like 80% of clubs have to be english players
most teams need dont have any english born players even playing week in weeek out
you learn more about football playing than watching
and most young players dont learn about football it gets coach out of them
at a very young age
you have to let them find a way to play with fun and smiles of there faces
look at the old way of playing in parks with jumpers for goalposts
next goal wins and all that playing in the streets to the dark of night
most of the legends in football played that way
how fit was colin bell box to box player run all day with the ball
a bet he was born with a ball at his feet
big blueballs said:this about sums up school and junior football, and it is due to the lack of decent coaches around and the win at all costs mentality of some teachers/coachesriley347 said:yesterday.....took my son to play for his school side(st bernadettes,whitefield)....opposing side (park view,prestwich),where one of their lads had a huge throw for his age.....their manager AND parents shouting "sling it long/ hurl it/as far as you can",at every opportunity....disgusted kids are encouraged to do this at such a young age.....OH, AND CHEERS PULIS YOU PRICK.....
football at an early age should be about learning and development but unfortunately this is not always the case, it is no wonder we are miles behind the likes of Spain when it comes to producing home grown players and it is due in part to the ignorance of teachers, parents and poor coaching,
we should be producing world class players in abundance with the amount of football that is played in this country but we are not and it all stems from grass roots bad habits like lump it forward and long throws etc no kid can benefit in anyway from such methods
i dont think we are miles behind the likes of Spain with youth football
most of our clubs like the man city youth setup is still 1 of the best
the thing is about them being given a chance at club level
we have to many inported players from spain france italy the english football leagues
we should have a setup like 80% of clubs have to be english players
most teams need dont have any english born players even playing week in weeek out
you learn more about football playing than watching
and most young players dont learn about football it gets coach out of them
at a very young age
you have to let them find a way to play with fun and smiles of there faces
look at the old way of playing in parks with jumpers for goalposts
next goal wins and all that playing in the streets to the dark of night
most of the legends in football played that way
how fit was colin bell box to box player run all day with the ball
a bet he was born with a ball at his feet
Re: shool match .....
Much of shcool and junior football isn't about enjoyment it's about the self agrindisement of coaches. What does it matter to these men if the kids they are living vicariously through grow up as lumpen, one-dimensional players as long as they have shelves groaning under the weight of plastic cups?
Much of shcool and junior football isn't about enjoyment it's about the self agrindisement of coaches. What does it matter to these men if the kids they are living vicariously through grow up as lumpen, one-dimensional players as long as they have shelves groaning under the weight of plastic cups?
inchy14
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I coach under 13's and i never worry about the result i just want them to play decent football, work hard and have a good attitude. Too many teams are reliant upon one kid who's bigger or can kick it further than anyone else.
I keep telling them that by the time they're 17-18 they be winning games because the size of the opponents or how far they can kick it will not matter and the team that keeps the ball and uses it wisely will be the one that wins more than it loses.
School football though is shite compared to league games. Usually a history teacher taking the team instead of the PE teacher.
I coach under 13's and i never worry about the result i just want them to play decent football, work hard and have a good attitude. Too many teams are reliant upon one kid who's bigger or can kick it further than anyone else.
I keep telling them that by the time they're 17-18 they be winning games because the size of the opponents or how far they can kick it will not matter and the team that keeps the ball and uses it wisely will be the one that wins more than it loses.
School football though is shite compared to league games. Usually a history teacher taking the team instead of the PE teacher.
tevezlaces
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When I was a nipper we were trained to take long throw ins. It's part of the game.
Skip Donoghue
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Re: shool match .....
why do you think our academies are full of foreign players, its because we are not coaching our young players at grass roots correctly and it goes back to long throws and lump it up the pitch win at all costs attitude
kids at u9/10/11 should be given the basics as i have said in an earlier post, let the ball do the work and work hard
there is a distinct lack of quality English players coming through trust me and we are miles behind spain, if they were to lose xavi or innesta they can call on fabregas, alonso, arteta and these are just a few i know of, if england lose rooney who have we got heskey/crouch it does not compare
look at our recent home defeat to greece at U21 level , i will give you another example England U20s 0 Ghana U20s 4
there were 6 city youth team players in that U20s squad and i watched the match it was like watching men against boys ghana were technically far superior to england and it is all to do with the basic principles of football being instilled at the right time, watch out for ghana in the future they have an exciting group of players coming through
football is all about fun for kids and should be like that but the lump it, long throw stuff does not belong in my eyes on a U9/10 or 11s pitch<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:35 am --<br /><br />
why do you think our academies are full of foreign players, its because we are not coaching our young players at grass roots correctly and it goes back to long throws and lump it up the pitch win at all costs attitude
kids at u9/10/11 should be given the basics as i have said in an earlier post, let the ball do the work and work hard
there is a distinct lack of quality English players coming through trust me and we are miles behind spain, if they were to lose xavi or innesta they can call on fabregas, alonso, arteta and these are just a few i know of, if england lose rooney who have we got heskey/crouch it does not compare
look at our recent home defeat to greece at U21 level , i will give you another example England U20s 0 Ghana U20s 4
there were 6 city youth team players in that U20s squad and i watched the match it was like watching men against boys ghana were technically far superior to england and it is all to do with the basic principles of football being instilled at the right time, watch out for ghana in the future they have an exciting group of players coming through
football is all about fun for kids and should be like that but the lump it, long throw stuff does not belong in my eyes on a U9/10 or 11s pitch<br /><br />-- Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:35 am --<br /><br />
how old are you tevezlaces if you don't mind me asking?tevezlaces said:When I was a nipper we were trained to take long throw ins. It's part of the game.
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sooner they take the throw in out of the game the better. Should be allowed kick it back on. only the goalie should be allowed handle it.
tevezlaces
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Re: shool match .....
Not at all, 22.
I remember training sessions where we spent at least half of it practicing throw ins, but that could be because we were crap ha
how old are you tevezlaces if you don't mind me asking?[/quote]tevezlaces said:When I was a nipper we were trained to take long throw ins. It's part of the game.
Not at all, 22.
I remember training sessions where we spent at least half of it practicing throw ins, but that could be because we were crap ha
Skip Donoghue
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Not at all, 22.
I remember training sessions where we spent at least half of it practicing throw ins, but that could be because we were crap ha[/quote]
no you will probably find it was your coach who was crap, what age were you when he had you practicing long throws?
tevezlaces said:how old are you tevezlaces if you don't mind me asking?tevezlaces said:When I was a nipper we were trained to take long throw ins. It's part of the game.
Not at all, 22.
I remember training sessions where we spent at least half of it practicing throw ins, but that could be because we were crap ha[/quote]
no you will probably find it was your coach who was crap, what age were you when he had you practicing long throws?
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10!!!!!!..........
LCBblue said:I quit playing for my school at the beginning of this year - poor standard of football, which consists of mostly long balls, big throws etc etc, the midfield was by-passed every game and it was hardly enjoyable, despite us winning most of our games.
I don't miss playing for school. How old is your son?
10!!!!!!..........
ono
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I played Junior football for a team near me in Leeds. Every week we had Leeds United coaches take a training session, The very first week we played a 9 a side game and i pulled the ball down and dribbled around 4 or 5 players before scoring. The trainer embarassed me in front of everyone and then made me run around the side of the pitch for 10 minutes.
He was annoyed that i didn't play the ball over the top. Looking back i can see his point, but what he did discouraged me from playing what my normal game was.
Every other team i played for at that level revolved around utilising a big and fast guy upfront. Even at school. The guy who played this role at my secondary school was Ryan Atkins who's now a professional Rugby player. Think he's playing for Warrington.
It's a shame really, because it tells at a professional level. Even most of our top players lack the technical ability of much lesser players abroad.
He was annoyed that i didn't play the ball over the top. Looking back i can see his point, but what he did discouraged me from playing what my normal game was.
Every other team i played for at that level revolved around utilising a big and fast guy upfront. Even at school. The guy who played this role at my secondary school was Ryan Atkins who's now a professional Rugby player. Think he's playing for Warrington.
It's a shame really, because it tells at a professional level. Even most of our top players lack the technical ability of much lesser players abroad.
LCBblue
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At ages 9-14 I think coaching should be about how to play football, passing, keeping the ball on the floor, but also for the kids to enjoy playing and have a good laugh, for them to have a competitive edge aswell.
I'm sure others would disagree however.
He's 10 and they're teaching him and his team mates how to pump a long through into the box? Their arms are like twigs at that age, there's no use.riley347 said:LCBblue said:I quit playing for my school at the beginning of this year - poor standard of football, which consists of mostly long balls, big throws etc etc, the midfield was by-passed every game and it was hardly enjoyable, despite us winning most of our games.
I don't miss playing for school. How old is your son?
10!!!!!!..........
At ages 9-14 I think coaching should be about how to play football, passing, keeping the ball on the floor, but also for the kids to enjoy playing and have a good laugh, for them to have a competitive edge aswell.
I'm sure others would disagree however.
jameo93 said:I WENT TO PARK VIEW, GONE DONE HILL SINCE I LEFT THOUGH BOUT 6 YEARS AGO
did they teach you that long throw shite too??.............