Schools 10 hour day

[mackenzie]

Just another hare brained scheme from a Government Minister.
Rather than insisting that all pupils should cram in 10 hours a day of academic learning they should actually shorten classroom based activity and allow those who are in danger of becoming excluded something different. The system should allow kids over a certain age, where it's a battle with them every day just to get them to attend, an alternative such as work based activities or something more 'technical' that allows them to actually find their niche.

And stop thinking that bums on seats in college is a result. It isn't; it's just bums on seats and all part of the education education education numbers game. Many courses are good but some aren't worth it and give pupils a totally unrealistic career 'path.'

 

[johnny on the spot]

Gove has just been asked on Channel 4 News why he thinks the bulk teachers despise him. He replied he simply doesn't know.

A ten hour school day would be a disaster for poor children. Many of Mrs Jots' primary kids arrive badly nourished (because their parents can't or don't feed them properly) and are exhausted by lunchtime. For a lot of her students, a school dinner at 12pm is the only cooked meal they get. Could they make it through a ten hour school day?

 

[idahoblues]

Michael Gove is a fucking brainless god-bothering Creationist imbecile who should be hurled head first into a baling machine.

I thought we (the US) had the monopoly on the god bothering creationist fuck wits, guess not. Too bad for you

 

[Damocles]

Michael Gove is a fucking brainless god-bothering Creationist imbecile who should be hurled head first into a baling machine.

This. I cannot believe how uneducated he is on how people learn.

Extending the amount of hours learning doesn't make them learn more.

 

[BigJimLittleJim]

Michael Gove is a fucking brainless god-bothering Creationist imbecile who should be hurled head first into a baling machine.

This. I cannot believe how uneducated he is on how people learn.

Extending the amount of hours learning doesn't make them learn more.

One hour of a fresh, motivated, teaching professional is worth more than ten hours of child minding a day - and that's what it will end up being when the teachers have lost the will to bother.

They might as well break out the Thomas The Tank Engine videos out now, fucking Tory twats.

 

[johnny on the spot]

If people really do want 'glorified childminders', teachers should be paid the going rate per hour, per child.

 

[Damocles]

One hour of a fresh, motivated, teaching professional is worth more than ten hours of child minding a day - and that's what it will end up being when the teachers have lost the will to bother.

They might as well break out the Thomas The Tank Engine videos out now, fucking Tory twats.

Whilst the teaching ability is a big factor, the brain just cannot take in information for 10 hours straight. It works in peaks and troughs, I seem to recall that from a 7am wake up we are most able to retain information best at around 10:30am and again at 2pm. These are the peaks and it drops between 10:30am to a low at 12pm which is why it's a good lunch/rest time.

This is just from memory before anybody starts but my dissertation for my first degree was about the psychology of learning, and how to introduce complex subjects to new students

 

[mackenzie]

If people really do want 'glorified childminders', teachers should be paid the going rate per hour, per child.

I think this is where Gove perceives a 'vote winner.'

 

[mcmanus]

I come from a family of educators on one side (fuck off with the what went with me jokes) and they just are shaking their heads. Gove is a clown. They just said he probably thinks he should have kids doing lines on fucking blackboards like Bart at the start of the Simpsons.

 

[NPBlue]

So he wants 10 year old kids to have a 50 hour working week, no doubt with homework as well.

I'm 56, we went to school from 9.00.am to 4.00.pm, had little homework, and our age group is, according to research, the best educated in our history.

When school finished, we were out on our own, and we learned many things that could not be taught in a classroom.

I feel sorry for kids today. We put them through all the pressure of gaining their 'A' levels, pack them off to University where they will run up a mountain of debt, and when they graduate, most of them will end up in jobs that would have been given to an average school leaver aged 16 with a few 'O' levels a couple of decades or so ago.

I think we ought to allow kids their childhoods, and let them enjoy being young without some career politician thinking about their next election result with a choice soundbite.

What's next for them, a bit of work experience, like cleaning chimneys?