Sea swimming at Christmas why ?

It’s been going on for years, way before social media. Like another poster said, people do way worse things all the time. A 28 year old kid just died here a week or two back back country skiing in extremely dangerous conditions, the snow base is very unstable at the moment and expect to hear of more before long
 
Blue Mist said:
OP, I totally agree with your post, can I also add mountain rescue to the brave RNLI.
Christmas day spoilt because a selfish brat wants to do a youtube vid of himself going up a snow covered mountain in jeans and trainers.

Those 2 idiot swimmers have now ruined every remaining Christmas for their families. Selfish, stupid bastards.
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Also ruined Christmas for the life boat men and women who had to go out looking for them in rough seas. The sea was far too rough to even attempt to go in.
 
give it to gordon said:
It seems to be a big thing nowadays but I just dont get.

All those brave RNIL volunteers, coast guards etc lost their Christmas day with their family because of swimmers ignoring a yellow weather warning.

The sea is a very dangerous place and anyone with any sense would not enter the sea under a yellow weather warning. Cold water shock can kill quickly, the power of the sea is not to be messed with.
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its rise in popularity began at the time they started closing asylums and began care in the community .................... just saying like
 
give it to gordon said:
It seems to be a big thing nowadays but I just dont get.

All those brave RNIL volunteers, coast guards etc lost their Christmas day with their family because of swimmers ignoring a yellow weather warning.

The sea is a very dangerous place and anyone with any sense would not enter the sea under a yellow weather warning. Cold water shock can kill quickly, the power of the sea is not to be messed with.
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Done properly and safely, open water swimming is fantastic. But you need the right equipment (full wetsuit for anything below 10 degrees c water) and you absolutely don’t fucking go in if the weather tells you not to.
Running in to a rapidly moving sea which is cold and for which you’re unprepared will only end one way.
But done properly and safely it’s great.
 
Last time I was in Cornwall all the beaches on the Atlantic side were red flagged day after day. The tide was pulling everything and everyone out in seconds. I eventually found a beach near Crantock that wasn’t flagged, walked in up to my knees and was almost pulled over. Got straight out. Lifeguard arrived moments later and red flagged it. That same day a bloke ignored the red flags near Fistral -they never found him. Swept away to the dark murky depths. He ignored the flags, ignored the whistles of the lifeguard. The sea is absolutely not to be fucked about with.
I love outdoor swimming but I love living even more. When in doubt - get out.
 
jimharri said:
You'll get the same answer mountaineers give when they're asked why they climb Everest; because it's there!
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The word mountaineers is the key, they usually go well equipped and aren’t novices.
johnnytapia said:
Done properly and safely, open water swimming is fantastic. But you need the right equipment (full wetsuit for anything below 10 degrees c water) and you absolutely don’t fucking go in if the weather tells you not to.
Running in to a rapidly moving sea which is cold and for which you’re unprepared will only end one way.
But done properly and safely it’s great.
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Correct, the sea was far too rough on Christmas Day to attempt swim.
 
normskih said:
The word mountaineers is the key, they usually go well equipped and aren’t novices.

Correct, the sea was far too rough on Christmas Day to attempt swim.
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I’ve not seen the footage but if people have blatantly ignored warnings then they’re idiots.

I think we also have to accept that with outdoor pursuits, be it swimming, climbing, caving etc, there will always be an element of risk - after all, it’s part of the reason I find swimming in the sea so enjoyable- you’re completely free, unshackled. But you absolutely cannot take unnecessary risks without facing the consequences.
I was up in Dunoon in the North Sea in February, the water was 1 degree. I knew I had to limit my time in the sea to the bare minimum. The sea wasn’t particularly rough but had I ventured too far in for too long, the cold would have seen me get into serious trouble. I did 5 minutes in very shallow water.
To the uninitiated, the sea can seem genteel and inviting. People forget just how fucking cold the it is.
 
hilts said:
Don't do it on Xmas day boxing day or new year. Same with walking up mountains with trainers.

Daft selfish cunts.
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Everyone needs to know trainers arent for walking up mountains. They are for running up mountains, ffs!
Flip flops are for walking up mountains. Fucking amatuers out there these days.

In winter, offset the possibility of frostbite, by wearing white terri towling ankle socks with the flips .

I'm three toes light due to forgetting that.
 
BimboBob said:
The properly done and official sea swims, sea wades more like, are watched over by the emergency services. I've done one myself. Made loads of cash for the RNLI. And it was very cold. Made up by whisky in the pub after.

But sadly now you get loads of twats/ influencers filming themselves climbing mountains/ swimming in the sea/ jumping off cliffs without proper clothing and/or assistance. I'd just leave them...if they die, they die.
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So called influencers want fucking off..
 
Seems plain nuts to me. A good few years back a friend of mine who is a kamikaze about these things — he's the kind of guy that will dive into a lake in the high Alps that is basically melted snow — suggested we go for a New Year's Day swim in the Med. I just said to him, “Now why would I want to do that?”.
Nothing to do with social media, by the way. He is not on any social media that I know of. He just likes setting himself these physical challenges. I really don't.
I used to enjoy swimming in the Med in the months of June (that's best, before the hordes have arrived), July and August. Gave up because I'm not a good swimmer, never have been, and in my fifties I started cramping up when I was well out of my depth. I thought, “OK, that's it, your time's up.”
I always swim on my own, by the way. As I did when I used to run regularly.
 
give it to gordon said:
The sea is a very dangerous place and anyone with any sense would not enter the sea under a yellow weather warning
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I haven't done any high altitude climbing, but if there are two places that clearly allow no margin for manœuvre, no making special deals with God, etc., etc., it is mountains and ocean. You're not there on your terms. You're there on their terms. At all times.
It's more than twenty-five years back, and I'm not going to get into the story, which is a long one, but I once basically put my life in the balance by swimming at the very wrong time and in the very wrong place. It took me weeks to realise what I'd done, that I'd basically rolled the dice to see what would happen. I was going through a very difficult period in my personal life. But as I say, only weeks later did I make the connection.
 
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