Season Tickets - 2024/25

MrCheeseGrater said:
They have given example prices for the stand, but also said that the prices are illustrative only, it's not clear how close to those figures it will actually end up being to attend that amount of games. What's to stop them deciding half way through the season to up the Flexi prices each game to make the total price far more than this 'illustrative' price. There would be nothing anyone on the Flexi could do apart from skip games if the individual match prices became too much. This lack of clear information makes it very difficult to plan costs for the season, it could end up being a gamble.
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It’s a sad, sad state of affairs that we have this level of distrust in the club. It wasn’t that long ago when supporters genuinely had a good relationship with the likes of Danny Wilson. There was a feeling that they were there not only to generate profits, but also to deliver engagement with the core fanbase. That all seems to have gone in the space of a couple of years and there’s seemingly nothing off the table in the relentless drive for increased revenue.

The list below shows the highly competitive, target driven environment they’re working in and it gives some kind of insight into why they are flogging hospitality tickets for £500 for the biggest matches of the season, giving new match day members the opportunity to enter a lottery with members with years of match going history

It’s probably a reflection of the state of football and another negative impact of the toxic FFP rules, rather than solely the clubs greed, but there has to be a way that they can deliver their profits without continuously alienating the core fan base.

It’s also why a North Stand redevelopment that prioritises fans and atmosphere,with a release of new reasonably priced season tickets is a pipe dream. It’s just not the clubs priority any more.

Matchday gate revenue made by top 15 clubs in 2023

Club / Total gate revenue/ Average gate yield per home match / Average gate yield per fan

Barcelona €190m (£162.47m) €7.6m (£6.5m) €91 (£77.81)

Paris Saint-Germain €153m (£130.83m) €6.6m (£5.64m) €140 (£119.72)

Tottenham Hotspur €135m (£115.44m) €5.6m (£4.71m) €92 (£78.67)

Real Madrid €134m (£114.59m) €4.8 (£4.10m) €83 (£70.97)

Manchester United €128m (£109.46m) €3.8 (£3.25m) €51 (£43.61)

Bayern Munich €121m (£103.47m) €5.2 (£4.45m) €70 (£59.86)

Arsenal €118 (£100.90m) €4.9 (£4.19m) €83 (£70.97)

Liverpool €92 (£78.67m) €3.7 (£3.16m) €69 (£59)

Manchester City €84 (£71.83m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €49 (£41.90)

AC Milan €79 (£67.55m) €3 (£2.57m) €43 (£36.77)

Chelsea €76 (£64.99m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €66 (£56.44)

Inter Milan €76 (£64.99m) €2.7 (£2.31m) €38 (3£2.49)

Marseille €64 (£54.73m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €43 (£36.77)

Juventus €63 (£53.87m) €2.2 (£1.88m) €60 (£51.31)

West Ham €61 (£52.16m) €2.3 (£1.97m) €40 (£34.20)

Via The European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report by UEFA (as of 17/02/24))
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
where you hear this? I know Spurs have just done away with theirs.
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Honestly, don't set too much store by it at this point. It really is through a friend who picked it up. I shouldn't have posted it, really. All I do know is that I couldn't pay the full adult fee any more, especially since I don't have the direct debit option (they don't have it for people who live abroad, and who only have an account in their country of residence).
 
There is a Light said:
It’s a sad, sad state of affairs that we have this level of distrust in the club. It wasn’t that long ago when supporters genuinely had a good relationship with the likes of Danny Wilson. There was a feeling that they were there not only to generate profits, but also to deliver engagement with the core fanbase. That all seems to have gone in the space of a couple of years and there’s seemingly nothing off the table in the relentless drive for increased revenue.

The list below shows the highly competitive, target driven environment they’re working in and it gives some kind of insight into why they are flogging hospitality tickets for £500 for the biggest matches of the season, giving new match day members the opportunity to enter a lottery with members with years of match going history

It’s probably a reflection of the state of football and another negative impact of the toxic FFP rules, rather than solely the clubs greed, but there has to be a way that they can deliver their profits without continuously alienating the core fan base.

It’s also why a North Stand redevelopment that prioritises fans and atmosphere,with a release of new reasonably priced season tickets is a pipe dream. It’s just not the clubs priority any more.

Matchday gate revenue made by top 15 clubs in 2023

Club / Total gate revenue/ Average gate yield per home match / Average gate yield per fan

Barcelona €190m (£162.47m) €7.6m (£6.5m) €91 (£77.81)

Paris Saint-Germain €153m (£130.83m) €6.6m (£5.64m) €140 (£119.72)

Tottenham Hotspur €135m (£115.44m) €5.6m (£4.71m) €92 (£78.67)

Real Madrid €134m (£114.59m) €4.8 (£4.10m) €83 (£70.97)

Manchester United €128m (£109.46m) €3.8 (£3.25m) €51 (£43.61)

Bayern Munich €121m (£103.47m) €5.2 (£4.45m) €70 (£59.86)

Arsenal €118 (£100.90m) €4.9 (£4.19m) €83 (£70.97)

Liverpool €92 (£78.67m) €3.7 (£3.16m) €69 (£59)

Manchester City €84 (£71.83m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €49 (£41.90)

AC Milan €79 (£67.55m) €3 (£2.57m) €43 (£36.77)

Chelsea €76 (£64.99m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €66 (£56.44)

Inter Milan €76 (£64.99m) €2.7 (£2.31m) €38 (3£2.49)

Marseille €64 (£54.73m) €2.5 (£2.14m) €43 (£36.77)

Juventus €63 (£53.87m) €2.2 (£1.88m) €60 (£51.31)

West Ham €61 (£52.16m) €2.3 (£1.97m) €40 (£34.20)

Via The European Club Finance and Investment Landscape report by UEFA (as of 17/02/24))
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Imagine being a Spurs fan and paying an average of 92€ per match! To watch Son Heung-Min and then a bunch of also-rans.


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East Level 2 said:
I think Spurs said they were not going to offer new FOC tickets. Implying they would continue to offer discounts to those who already benefitted.
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City won't get rid of it but you can see it being aligned with the 18-21 cat as it is for single matchday tickets. The the pitch side it is already the same.
 
Corky said:
City won't get rid of it but you can see it being aligned with the 18-21 cat as it is for single matchday tickets. The the pitch side it is already the same.
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It's already that in the middle section of SS3 where I am and the back section too. Over 65 and 18-21 exactly the same
 
blueparrot said:
They have given the prices for one stand,and if you attend all 19 games so it’s a reasonable assumption to say the maths will work out
the same for all areas. East stand level 3 is £705 for 19 games plus £150, not sure how that compares to a S/C.
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It cant possibly be cheaper than a season ticket, even if you aim to attend all the matches.
If you have a ST, you can resell on the exchange matches you dont go to and get the money pro-rated refund.
With this pay as you go, the matches you cant get to just make the initial £150 more expensive per match.
Not sure what the upside over a gold ticket is.
 
tedmak said:
It cant possibly be cheaper than a season ticket, even if you aim to attend all the matches.
If you have a ST, you can resell on the exchange matches you dont go to and get the money pro-rated refund.
With this pay as you go, the matches you cant get to just make the initial £150 more expensive per match.
Not sure what the upside over a gold ticket is.
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The upside is that you get to choose your seat for the season. That could be important for people that want to be near their friends/family and especially for adults who want their young children next to them. It's certainly not for everyone though.
 
tedmak said:
It cant possibly be cheaper than a season ticket, even if you aim to attend all the matches.
If you have a ST, you can resell on the exchange matches you dont go to and get the money pro-rated refund.
With this pay as you go, the matches you cant get to just make the initial £150 more expensive per match.
Not sure what the upside over a gold ticket is.
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Well it won’t be cheaper than a S/C with the £150.Obviously the less matches you go to the £150. makes it more expensive / game but still a lot cheaper than £35 Cityzen membership and 10 match day tickets. Having said that it’s not really aimed at a S/C holder that goes to 19 games.
Either current S/C holders those looking to go less but not end up in a match ticket scramble.
Or those that can’t get a S/C this probably gets them up the ladder if more S/C are available after the extension.
Or matchday ticket buyers that can make the 10 game minimum.
Plus those with a silver S/C now.
Not sure how many of these there will be but expect them to get snapped up.
 
blueparrot said:
Well it won’t be cheaper than a S/C with the £150.Obviously the less matches you go to the £150. makes it more expensive / game but still a lot cheaper than £35 Cityzen membership and 10 match day tickets. Having said that it’s not really aimed at a S/C holder that goes to 19 games.
Either current S/C holders those looking to go less but not end up in a match ticket scramble.
Or those that can’t get a S/C this probably gets them up the ladder if more S/C are available after the extension.
Or matchday ticket buyers that can make the 10 game minimum.
Plus those with a silver S/C now.
Not sure how many of these there will be but expect them to get snapped up.
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From what I can read, this is only on offer to current ST holders.
I havent seen anywhere that new tickets are on offer.
(Am happy to be corrected).
 
Our matchday revenue has been underreported in previous years (not maliciously I might add) because of the way we accounted for hospitality income.

Basically, F3 (Fabulous Fan Fayre) paid us a fee, and they bore all the costs but also took the revenue. So if they paid us, say 10% and hospitality food and drink revenue was £20m, we'd get £2m. In fact that was classed as commercial income, rather than matchday.

Partway through last season we changed so that we bore the cost but booked the revenue, which is why matchday revenue increased significantly. This financial year will be the first full one under the new arrangements so I'd expect matchday income to exceed £80m (it was around the £57m mark in 2022).

Based on a projected matchday revenue of £82m our pro-data revenue per head, based on maximum capacity of 53,500 will be just over £1,500 per person. If you do the same calculation for united, based on their 75k capacity, that comes to £1,450 per person.

We aren't lagging our peers therefore, and anyone who says we need the increases to catch up doesn't understand that.
 
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tedmak said:
From what I can read, this is only on offer to current ST holders.
I havent seen anywhere that new tickets are on offer.
(Am happy to be corrected).
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No, a limited amount will be offered to qualifying matchday members, and I think the Silver S/C is being discontinued and will be offered the Flexi gold. So an upgrade for them.
 
blueparrot said:
No, a limited amount will be offered to qualifying matchday members, and I think the Silver S/C is being discontinued and will be offered the Flexi gold. So an upgrade for them.
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Fair enough - I missed the bit about the limited new tickets.
For the silver, I have always classed them as ST holders as they were guaranteed tickets for the other 5 matches if they so wished.
 
blueparrot said:
No, a limited amount will be offered to qualifying matchday members, and I think the Silver S/C is being discontinued and will be offered the Flexi gold. So an upgrade for them.
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Silvers have been offered the opportunity for a full ST aswell, so it didn’t work out too badly for them in the end.

No one knows obviously as it’s City we’re talking about but I get the impression the majority are going to go to juniors.

I’ve been able to already ‘express an interest’ through a junior member account. But I don’t think adults have been given that opportunity yet.
 
Big Joe Corrigan said:
How do you qualify for a flexi gold as a matchday member, is it based on points?
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Think it will probably be a lottery mate, matchday members will have to apply on the release date.

Get a load of new matchday members then before the release date.
 
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