Seat Counters - 2022/23

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I'm gonna be a C**t and say what I see.

All these games that are sold out, why are there empties dotted around?

Last night the seat in front of us empty and 4 on our row, empty, I'm sure they were sold but we must have the largest number of fans who pay for a ticket and don't turn up!

There were 2 large groups of seats that were empty in the Family Stand last night, but try buying a ticket and you can't as none available.

It baffles me but importantly gives ammunition to the pisstaking none City fans.

There’s quite a lot of seats in the family stand and block 107 for example, which are always ‘sold out’. They are often empty, as they are seats given out by the club or bought as part of ticket packages (schools/ corporate)

I don’t believe that there are so many people buying tickets and not turning up.

I agree on your wider point and it’s very frustrating. The club say sold out and you get there and it’s often the same seats that are empty. Surely it’s better to fill those seats.

 

[Stephen230]

You like jrb are missing my point.
I couldn't give a fuck what anyone says about anything and I give as good as I get but when I am unable to buy a ticket to take my lad cos none are available only to see empties in our stand it becomes annoying.

My point is we seem to have a load of fans that buy but don't go, that is fucking weird.
Had a discussion with a bloke earlier today who admitted he is on the FA Cup scheme but couldn't be arsed going last night, don't think he went to round 3 either, complete madness!

Well in my defence I assumed your point was the bit you said was important.

 

[Gingers Dad]

There was the odd gap in 114.

Been shifted from 315 into 114 the last 2 games and both times I've relocated next to my lad a row below where there's been 2 empties next to him once the game kicked off.

Now it could be someone who couldn't make both the Chelsea & Arsenal game but they weren't the only spares in sight.

Loads of people don't stand where their seat is. I know a guy who has never even been to the seat he's actually paid for.

 

[Norbiton]

It doesn’t help that the ticket exchange scheme doesn’t apply to cup games so people who have a ticket but find they can’t go can only use ticket transfer. Sadly my seat was empty for the Chelsea game because of train strikes, Arsenal on a Friday night made it impossible for me as well but did manage to find a home for the ticket this time

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It doesn’t help that the ticket exchange scheme doesn’t apply to cup games so people who have a ticket but find they can’t go can only use ticket transfer. Sadly my seat was empty for the Chelsea game because of train strikes, Arsenal on a Friday night made it impossible for me as well but did manage to find a home for the ticket this time

Loads of peole sell on tickets via the unofficial Facebook pages mate. The Haaland affect means there is huge demand for tickets.

 

[MossHey71]

I'm gonna be a C**t and say what I see.

All these games that are sold out, why are there empties dotted around?

Last night the seat in front of us empty and 4 on our row, empty, I'm sure they were sold but we must have the largest number of fans who pay for a ticket and don't turn up!

There were 2 large groups of seats that were empty in the Family Stand last night, but try buying a ticket and you can't as none available.

It baffles me but importantly gives ammunition to the pisstaking none City fans.

i agree about how many empty seats we have when tickets have been sold - but, i think we only declare the attendance of tickets sold - rather than actually attend the game.
The fact that those of us who joined the Cup schemes this season cannot use ticket exchange this season is one reason why people buy but then when kick off time is scheduled for Friday night or late Sunday, it makes anyone travelling any distance finding it difficult to get to or get home afterwards, but they cannot sell their ticket back to the club like we can for PL Games.
The second almost goes against the "why don't we charge less for Cup tickets" argument. If you only pay £25 for a ticket and it costs you more than £25 in travel cost to get to the game - some people choose to stay at home and watch on TV.
When kick off times are only confirmed 2 weeks before the game - there are no cheaper travel options available - so i think that's why there are so many empties for tickets paid for.
Bring back ticket Exchange for cup games.

 

[bluesmith]

i agree about how many empty seats we have when tickets have been sold - but, i think we only declare the attendance of tickets sold - rather than actually attend the game.
The fact that those of us who joined the Cup schemes this season cannot use ticket exchange this season is one reason why people buy but then when kick off time is scheduled for Friday night or late Sunday, it makes anyone travelling any distance finding it difficult to get to or get home afterwards, but they cannot sell their tenet back to the club like we can for PL Games.
The second almost goes against the "why don't we charge less for Cup tickets" argument. If you only pay £25 for a ticket and it costs you more than £25 in travel cost to get to the game - some people choose to stay at home and watch on TV.
When kick off times are only confirmed 2 weeks before the game - there are no cheaper travel options available - so i think that's why there are so many empties for tickets paid for.
Bring back ticket Exchange for cup games.

Ticket exchange has never been available for cup games.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

i agree about how many empty seats we have when tickets have been sold - but, i think we only declare the attendance of tickets sold - rather than actually attend the game.
The fact that those of us who joined the Cup schemes this season cannot use ticket exchange this season is one reason why people buy but then when kick off time is scheduled for Friday night or late Sunday, it makes anyone travelling any distance finding it difficult to get to or get home afterwards, but they cannot sell their tenet back to the club like we can for PL Games.
The second almost goes against the "why don't we charge less for Cup tickets" argument. If you only pay £25 for a ticket and it costs you more than £25 in travel cost to get to the game - some people choose to stay at home and watch on TV.
When kick off times are only confirmed 2 weeks before the game - there are no cheaper travel options available - so i think that's why there are so many empties for tickets paid for.
Bring back ticket Exchange for cup games.

It’s easy to resell Cup tickets with a bit of effort. Especially when we have been drawing other premier league giants.

 

[Norbiton]

Loads of peole sell on tickets via the unofficial Facebook pages mate. The Haaland affect means there is huge demand for tickets.

Old gits like me don’t do Facebook

 

[HelloCity]

Having a ticket exchange for cup games would make no sense.

If we get to the final you get first dibs if you’re on the cup scheme.

If there was a ticket exchange you could go on the cup scheme and sell every home cup ticket on there and then get first dibs for the final having not showed up to a single match.

Of course, you can always sell them on unofficially but it would make no sense from a City perspective to allow it to happen on their watch.

 

[Norbiton]

Having a ticket exchange for cup games would make no sense.

If we get to the final you get first dibs if you’re on the cup scheme.

If there was a ticket exchange you could go on the cup scheme and sell every home cup ticket on there and then get first dibs for the final having not showed up to a single match.

Of course, you can always sell them on unofficially but it would make no sense from a City perspective to allow it to happen on their watch.

The ticket transfer scheme is official and you can still get priority for final tickets without having been to a game.

 

[Beaker]

Having a ticket exchange for cup games would make no sense.

If we get to the final you get first dibs if you’re on the cup scheme.

If there was a ticket exchange you could go on the cup scheme and sell every home cup ticket on there and then get first dibs for the final having not showed up to a single match.

Of course, you can always sell them on unofficially but it would make no sense from a City perspective to allow it to happen on their watch.

Which is why when it comes to final tickets I would give first priority to the people who actually attended all the home games in said competition, simply signing up to the scheme and not going shouldn’t get you first dibs on final tickets.

 

[ysmsa]

You'd have noticed if you had been there, surely

Ffs, I noticed at the start of the match but never gave it a thought until commenting on this thread.
Hard to tell towards the end of a game cos of the early leavers!

 

[ysmsa]

I often wonder whether it's due to them giving away so many points for joining these cup schemes. Imo the cup scheme should be there for convenience, and we shouldn't be using points to bribe people into joining the scheme. Thus you end up with a situation like this where loads join the scheme for the points, but are not actually arsed about going to the games unless it suits them

Think it's more to do with priority for semi and final tickets tbh.
For me personally £25 is a lot to pay for a ticket I wouldn't use.

 

[ysmsa]

Loads of people don't stand where their seat is. I know a guy who has never even been to the seat he's actually paid for.

I know that happens in the lower tier and the stadium design allowsit, you can stand at the back and watch.
I find it odd to have a cracking seat in Level 2 unoccupied but paid for.

 

[ysmsa]

Having a ticket exchange for cup games would make no sense.

If we get to the final you get first dibs if you’re on the cup scheme.

If there was a ticket exchange you could go on the cup scheme and sell every home cup ticket on there and then get first dibs for the final having not showed up to a single match.

Of course, you can always sell them on unofficially but it would make no sense from a City perspective to allow it to happen on their watch.

Easily remided that, tickets resold on the exchange remove entitlement.
Could mean an empty seat I suppose but paid for.

 

[ysmsa]

Well in my defence I assumed your point was the bit you said was important.

I've never been one to call us out over this issue as there are many factors involved which other fans don't understand or want to understand

Big spacious ground, 1 empty stands out a mile unlike ot and Klanfield, sardine central.
Decent facilities compared to the 2 above so an extra drink is taken.
Proper City fans tradition of drinking so arriving late compared to a tourist that gets in early and doesn't move.

Shared S/T's amongst Families and friends living in Bristol or Scandinavian for example, the ticket never goes unused as there are so many out of town plebs taking turns to use it.
I never knew this was a thing until chatting with my Bro in law years ago and he and his mates "shared" a Rag S/T, couldn't believe it myself, took the piss.

My only little gripe is when wanting to buy an extra as a S/T holder and you can't only to find an unoccupied seat close by.

 

[Gary James]

The whole ’Empty Seats’ stuff bugs me so I’ve been doing some analysis comparing attendances at PL clubs recently. I’ve just published this article which includes some stats that City fans may want to remember, especially when being challenged by Villa, Everton or LFC fans.

Attendance Differences

I’ve been doing quite a bit of research into attendance figures this week and thought I’d share a couple of findings which may surprise some. There has been a lot of talk in recent years about cert…

gjfootballarchive.com

There will be more on this in the coming weeks.

 

[Stephen230]

The whole ’Empty Seats’ stuff bugs me so I’ve been doing some analysis comparing attendances at PL clubs recently. I’ve just published this article which includes some stats that City fans may want to remember, especially when being challenged by Villa, Everton or LFC fans.

Attendance Differences

I’ve been doing quite a bit of research into attendance figures this week and thought I’d share a couple of findings which may surprise some. There has been a lot of talk in recent years about cert…

gjfootballarchive.com

There will be more on this in the coming weeks.

Not sure if I’m misunderstanding this but I don’t see the correlation between highest attendance/ average attendance and ‘empty seats’?

If your average was 10,000 and your highest 10,100, that might prove you’ve got a hardcore of unfickle fans who turn up come what may. But if your ground held 80,000 they’d still be a lot of empty seats every week.

 

[Gary James]

Not sure if I’m misunderstanding this but I don’t see the correlation between highest attendance/ average attendance and ‘empty seats’?

If your average was 10,000 and your highest 10,100, that might prove you’ve got a hardcore of unfickle fans who turn up come what may. But if your ground held 80,000 they’d still be a lot of empty seats every week.

True but in the modern era most PL clubs claim sell outs every season but usually that’s below the actual stated capacity so, to avoid fans of club X saying ‘but our capacity wasn’t really xx,xxx it was so much lower’ I’ve gone with a club’s best as the most a club could get. The truth is that there will be a gap for most between highest and capacity due to segregation etc.