Seat Counters - 2024/25

Donmcfc said:
4,250 empty seats tomorrow night? £71 a ticket. That's over £300,000 of lost revenue to add to the thousands of pounds lost revenue due to poor ticket sales for the semi final. When are these fucking idiots running the club going to realise the damage that they are doing by continually bleeding the fans dry?
It will take more than peaceful protests and 6 minute boycotts to sort this mess out.
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It is mainly ticket exchange resales, the club aren't bothered, they make more money if prices are higher and will sell about 99% of seats.
 
paulchapo said:
Fucking good. It's only when they start seeing more and more empty seats they might get the message.
Where are all the tourist fans for this one?
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The seats on sale in my block look like seasoncard seats and they are being bought by match-day fans. Where do tourists come into it? The issue here is high match-day ticket prices.
 
Marvin. said:
The seats on sale in my block look like seasoncard seats and they are being bought by match-day fans. Where do tourists come into it? The issue here is high match-day ticket prices.
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Do you think the majority of match day City fans can afford £71 match day tickets? What group of City fans would you put them in? Football Tourists? Local City fans? Legacy City fans? City fans from abroad? Etc.

In the North stand planning Application the club, yes the club, splits City fans into GA+ City fans, and GA City fans for seating on NSL2. I'll go further and add G City fans for the 3000 safe standing section at the back of NSL2.

It's no surprise the club asks for your name, date of birth, address etc. They
Iike harvesting information about you and us. It gives the club a valuable insight into the demographics of our support, and what ticket prices our support can and will absorb.(but not always as Leicester, Villa, etc have shown)
 
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Who is going to tell Pep…

"It is a final and we need our people because I think our people want the Champions League next season again and hopefully they can help us from the first minute.

"Sometimes we are sloppy, sometimes we are not playing good, now we need them desperately to support us, to make noise and be there all the time because it's absolutely a final for us."
 
Donmcfc said:
4,250 empty seats tomorrow night? £71 a ticket. That's over £300,000 of lost revenue to add to the thousands of pounds lost revenue due to poor ticket sales for the semi final. When are these fucking idiots running the club going to realise the damage that they are doing by continually bleeding the fans dry?
It will take more than peaceful protests and 6 minute boycotts to sort this mess out.
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They've totally lost touch ( If they ever had it) of what this fan base was built on and what it is. Did they think we retained a hard core of 30,000+ all those years we were pretty rubbish by not being stubborn bastards and a bit eccentric? We took pride in facing up to the scorn and piss taking at school, in the workplace, the media and the pubs. We refused to be bullied or intimidated by anybody, including Swales and his cronies when we were heavily involved in ousting him. All these values were passed onto kids and grandkids. Any organisation and club worth anything would covet and nurture such support, not try to drive them out and replace them with new fans, many of whom will move onto the next shiny toy when our glitz and glamour fades, as it has this season. The proof of that is the recent unsold tickets.
What this club have is something money, success and gimmicks cannot buy. They alienate and destroy that at their peril.
 
Marvin. said:
The seats on sale in my block look like seasoncard seats and they are being bought by match-day fans. Where do tourists come into it? The issue here is high match-day ticket prices.
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They come into it as you well know but I'm not getting into a debate with you about tourist fans as your opinion is very well known on the subject and is set in stone.
I will add why do you think we have high match day ticket prices? It's an easy answer.
 
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It is because they will be using dynamic pricing, which I do not support because when demand is high, prices will rise and become a ripoff. Prices for games like this, however, will fall when demand is low. They will have an algorithm integrated into their system that calculates the pricing of the tickets. Whereas City has them fixed at £71-£88.
 
paulchapo said:
They come into it as you well know but I'm not getting into a debate with you about tourist fans as your opinion is very well known on the subject and is set in stone.
I will add why do you think we have high match day ticket prices? It's an easy answer.
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The high match-day prices result from what the club found they can charge and sell out the ground.

Tourists (as in fans who do not support City) are an insignificant part of our match-day fanbase. At least they go to the game.
 
DMA's said:
This is why I wasn’t buzzing and celebrating the price freeze news. The prices are already ridiculous so them freezing them was not enough.

Unless you have a season ticket you are fucked
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Hence why tonight's protest is focusing more on match day prices. While a season ticket price freeze isn't too bad, a match day ticket price freeze is nowhere near good enough when you consider that the minimum price for 2 adults and 2 under-18s for tonight's game will set you back £228.
 
Corky said:
It is mainly ticket exchange resales, the club aren't bothered, they make more money if prices are higher and will sell about 99% of seats.
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This point is often missed. These seats have already been sold and so the club can’t lose. If they don’t sell you don’t get a refund. Not defending the ludicrous £71 price. Perhaps more season ticket holders should turn up for midweek games.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
This point is often missed. These seats have already been sold and so the club can’t lose. If they don’t sell you don’t get a refund. Not defending the ludicrous £71 price. Perhaps more season ticket holders should turn up for midweek games.
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They're not all exchange seats though. Loads reappeared on the planner the other week. Such as a couple of hundred in each of several 3rd tier blocks. Many of them together towards the back of the blocks so no way they were exchange seats. Then last week many of those disappeared again - all at once - even though sales had been really slow.
 
If you live in London for example, how do you get home after City v Villa? Travel to and from the game if a very big factor in the seats remaining for the Villa game. It's not just ticket prices.
 
M18CTID said:
They're not all exchange seats though. Loads reappeared on the planner the other week. Such as a couple of hundred in each of several 3rd tier blocks. Many of them together towards the back of the blocks so no way they were exchange seats. Then last week many of those disappeared again - all at once - even though sales had been really slow.
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Virtually every match was sold out in August. The vast majority of spare seats are no shows from season ticket holders who can’t be arsed or can’t attend for valid personal reasons.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Virtually every match was sold out in August. The vast majority of spare seats are no shows from season ticket holders who can’t be arsed or can’t attend for valid personal reasons.
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No doubt that there will be ST holders putting their tickets on the exchange but you're not factoring in blocks of tickets returned from 3rd party ticket agencies - tickets that were never on sale to fans in the first place last summer - who haven't been able to sell them. This has happened a few times now - Forest in December, Leicester the other week, and now Villa tonight. How do you explain a block of 200 or so seats all together and all at the back of one of the 3rd tier blocks suddenly appearing on the planner for the Villa game? That's clearly not a load of season ticket holders who are in the same part of the ground suddenly deciding to whack their seats back on the exchange all at the same time.
 
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